WEBVTT 0 00:00:00.009 --> 00:00:00.730 is the top of the hour, 1 00:00:00.779 --> 00:00:03.609 so we're gonna go ahead and uh get started. 2 00:00:04.179 --> 00:00:04.190 Uh, 3 00:00:04.199 --> 00:00:05.690 welcome to Office Hours with me, 4 00:00:05.809 --> 00:00:06.449 your host, 5 00:00:06.730 --> 00:00:07.250 Probable Prime. 6 00:00:07.449 --> 00:00:07.929 As promised, 7 00:00:08.010 --> 00:00:09.689 I'm gonna tell you about my day because it 8 00:00:09.689 --> 00:00:12.050 directly relates to the quality of this office hours. 9 00:00:12.130 --> 00:00:12.529 As you know, 10 00:00:12.649 --> 00:00:13.770 for like a number of weeks, 11 00:00:13.850 --> 00:00:16.489 I've been trying to get us to Twitch for my office hours. 12 00:00:16.690 --> 00:00:16.829 Now, 13 00:00:16.850 --> 00:00:18.260 the problem with getting um 14 00:00:18.704 --> 00:00:21.805 Getting us to Twitch for this particular office hours is I only think 15 00:00:22.024 --> 00:00:24.155 about getting us to Twitch on Tuesdays. 16 00:00:24.305 --> 00:00:25.694 And the reason behind that is like, 17 00:00:25.985 --> 00:00:27.415 end of Tuesday I'm like, 18 00:00:27.625 --> 00:00:30.385 I'll try again next week and then I forget for the rest of the week. 19 00:00:30.625 --> 00:00:32.215 It gets to Monday and I, 20 00:00:32.264 --> 00:00:34.064 on Monday I try and do a lot of work 21 00:00:34.064 --> 00:00:36.505 cos like usually some stuff's built up over the weekend. 22 00:00:36.909 --> 00:00:37.490 Um, 23 00:00:37.709 --> 00:00:39.909 so I usually don't get to do anything I want to do. 24 00:00:40.099 --> 00:00:41.419 Monday is usually like a, 25 00:00:41.630 --> 00:00:44.869 let's do all the stuff that other people wanted me to do over the 26 00:00:44.869 --> 00:00:47.869 weekend or I forgot to do last week that's really important this week, 27 00:00:47.930 --> 00:00:48.349 etc. 28 00:00:48.509 --> 00:00:48.930 so like 29 00:00:49.189 --> 00:00:50.389 Monday isn't owned by me, 30 00:00:50.450 --> 00:00:52.610 it's just like a lot of admin and stuff like that. 31 00:00:52.869 --> 00:00:55.549 And then Tuesday I'm like office hours, 32 00:00:55.590 --> 00:00:56.790 I should really get us to Twitch, 33 00:00:56.869 --> 00:00:57.069 right? 34 00:00:57.110 --> 00:00:58.529 I should get us to Twitch 35 00:00:58.709 --> 00:00:58.869 and. 36 00:00:58.970 --> 00:01:00.709 So let me tell you about my day. 37 00:01:01.009 --> 00:01:01.790 Um, 38 00:01:02.090 --> 00:01:02.669 I was 39 00:01:02.849 --> 00:01:05.510 lying in bed 100% asleep. 40 00:01:05.800 --> 00:01:06.089 Um, 41 00:01:06.330 --> 00:01:07.680 Feder was under the covers, 42 00:01:07.769 --> 00:01:10.000 somewhere near me but not like touching me, 43 00:01:10.209 --> 00:01:11.489 and we're like just stirring, 44 00:01:11.569 --> 00:01:11.690 right, 45 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:12.919 alarm hasn't even gone off, 46 00:01:12.970 --> 00:01:13.769 we're just stirring, 47 00:01:13.849 --> 00:01:14.169 we're like, 48 00:01:14.209 --> 00:01:14.690 ah, 49 00:01:14.809 --> 00:01:15.010 you know, 50 00:01:15.089 --> 00:01:15.730 it's peaceful, 51 00:01:15.809 --> 00:01:16.550 it's the morning. 52 00:01:16.849 --> 00:01:18.150 And then I hear like 53 00:01:18.370 --> 00:01:20.669 dog puke noises from underneath the covers 54 00:01:20.769 --> 00:01:21.050 and it's. 55 00:01:21.160 --> 00:01:21.589 Like, 56 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:22.410 why, 57 00:01:22.790 --> 00:01:23.459 why, 58 00:01:23.830 --> 00:01:24.529 why? 59 00:01:24.910 --> 00:01:25.930 And um 60 00:01:26.110 --> 00:01:26.830 if you own dogs, 61 00:01:26.940 --> 00:01:29.339 it's gonna be a bit TMI gross for the next couple of minutes. 62 00:01:29.589 --> 00:01:30.389 If you own dogs, 63 00:01:30.430 --> 00:01:31.500 you'll know that like 64 00:01:31.750 --> 00:01:34.050 some dogs will just stay stationary when they puke 65 00:01:34.150 --> 00:01:37.029 and some dogs will decide that they want to run around because they 66 00:01:37.029 --> 00:01:39.389 don't wanna puke but they don't know how to prevent themselves from puking, 67 00:01:39.430 --> 00:01:41.819 so they just wanna move cos maybe that'll fix it, 68 00:01:42.029 --> 00:01:42.410 right? 69 00:01:42.720 --> 00:01:43.190 Um. 70 00:01:43.650 --> 00:01:47.050 So what I do to try and both calm them down, 71 00:01:47.370 --> 00:01:48.160 help them out, 72 00:01:48.250 --> 00:01:49.089 reassure them, 73 00:01:49.169 --> 00:01:52.610 but also control where the puke goes is hold them still. 74 00:01:52.809 --> 00:01:53.529 Just gently, 75 00:01:53.610 --> 00:01:54.419 just sort of like, 76 00:01:54.690 --> 00:01:54.989 alright, 77 00:01:55.059 --> 00:01:55.250 dog, 78 00:01:55.330 --> 00:01:55.970 you're gonna puke, 79 00:01:56.010 --> 00:01:58.190 you don't need to run around and puke in a mystery corner. 80 00:01:58.519 --> 00:01:58.650 I'm. 81 00:01:58.790 --> 00:02:00.180 Just gonna hold you gently here 82 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.040 and you're gonna puke straight in front of you, 83 00:02:02.150 --> 00:02:03.360 which happened to be all over my bed. 84 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:03.879 I'm like, 85 00:02:03.949 --> 00:02:04.550 at this point, 86 00:02:04.559 --> 00:02:06.739 it's better than the laundry on the floor 87 00:02:06.919 --> 00:02:10.199 or them disappearing under a table and me finding it three months later. 88 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:10.589 I'm like, 89 00:02:10.600 --> 00:02:11.309 just puke on my bed, 90 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:11.830 it's fine, 91 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:13.240 just puke on my bed. 92 00:02:13.440 --> 00:02:13.990 Um, 93 00:02:14.320 --> 00:02:16.110 and so he pukes on my bed and I'm just like, 94 00:02:16.279 --> 00:02:18.059 and then he's like sad for a little bit, 95 00:02:18.229 --> 00:02:18.699 so 96 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.080 like to cheer him up because he's just puked, 97 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:21.589 um, 98 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:21.910 you know, 99 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:23.479 we have a little cuddle on the bed and I fall 100 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.839 asleep again and then I wake up and I'm like, 101 00:02:25.850 --> 00:02:26.139 fuck. 102 00:02:27.369 --> 00:02:29.570 Cos then the puke's been sat there for however long I'm asleep, 103 00:02:29.649 --> 00:02:29.770 right, 104 00:02:29.850 --> 00:02:31.190 and I'm even later 105 00:02:31.410 --> 00:02:32.990 to try to start my office hours. 106 00:02:34.149 --> 00:02:35.100 So I get up, 107 00:02:35.350 --> 00:02:37.050 remove all the like sheets from the bed, 108 00:02:37.910 --> 00:02:39.240 stuff them into the washer. 109 00:02:39.589 --> 00:02:40.039 Uh, 110 00:02:40.070 --> 00:02:41.089 take him outside 111 00:02:41.320 --> 00:02:42.059 and you know, 112 00:02:42.270 --> 00:02:42.509 uh, 113 00:02:42.630 --> 00:02:44.690 he can have a pee and then I come back in, 114 00:02:44.869 --> 00:02:45.309 uh, 115 00:02:45.419 --> 00:02:47.309 and I try and get started with my day. 116 00:02:47.389 --> 00:02:48.050 By this point, 117 00:02:48.470 --> 00:02:48.889 the, 118 00:02:49.149 --> 00:02:49.339 uh, 119 00:02:49.389 --> 00:02:50.889 washer has finished its cycle 120 00:02:51.149 --> 00:02:51.630 and, 121 00:02:51.710 --> 00:02:52.160 uh, 122 00:02:52.169 --> 00:02:52.910 so I'm like great, 123 00:02:53.070 --> 00:02:53.690 time to put 124 00:02:54.419 --> 00:02:55.110 everything into the dryer, 125 00:02:55.119 --> 00:02:56.660 and as I pull it out I'm like, 126 00:02:56.949 --> 00:02:57.419 oh it 127 00:02:57.779 --> 00:02:58.470 kind of smells gross, 128 00:02:58.509 --> 00:02:59.389 what's going on here? 129 00:02:59.580 --> 00:03:02.130 And it turns out that the drain for the washer, 130 00:03:02.259 --> 00:03:02.619 um, 131 00:03:02.630 --> 00:03:03.529 is clogged, 132 00:03:03.789 --> 00:03:05.309 um by one of Feder's toys. 133 00:03:06.589 --> 00:03:07.339 And so 134 00:03:07.580 --> 00:03:09.559 the washer won't drain properly, 135 00:03:09.839 --> 00:03:10.500 um, 136 00:03:10.830 --> 00:03:11.199 but. 137 00:03:12.339 --> 00:03:14.619 It will still look like it's drained properly cos 138 00:03:14.619 --> 00:03:16.889 it's mostly just sort of like contained in the, 139 00:03:16.899 --> 00:03:18.000 the washer's seal. 140 00:03:18.259 --> 00:03:19.119 So there's like 141 00:03:19.220 --> 00:03:21.039 gross looking but nice smelling. 142 00:03:22.190 --> 00:03:25.660 Washing water in there and one of Fetna's toys that I've been looking for for a while. 143 00:03:25.910 --> 00:03:27.110 And it's just sat there and it's like, 144 00:03:27.270 --> 00:03:27.389 right, 145 00:03:27.509 --> 00:03:27.809 so 146 00:03:28.029 --> 00:03:31.889 now I've got my hands covered in like gross dish soapy water 147 00:03:32.029 --> 00:03:34.830 and I'm fixing the washer so that it can do another cycle. 148 00:03:34.910 --> 00:03:35.270 And I'm like, 149 00:03:35.350 --> 00:03:35.509 All right, 150 00:03:35.589 --> 00:03:36.029 looks better, 151 00:03:36.110 --> 00:03:36.949 looks like it drained. 152 00:03:37.110 --> 00:03:37.860 So I'll put the, 153 00:03:37.990 --> 00:03:39.350 the sheets back in 154 00:03:39.630 --> 00:03:40.449 for another 155 00:03:40.690 --> 00:03:41.350 cycle, 156 00:03:41.509 --> 00:03:41.750 um, 157 00:03:41.910 --> 00:03:42.869 because they didn't wash properly, 158 00:03:42.949 --> 00:03:43.070 right, 159 00:03:43.190 --> 00:03:43.779 because of all the gross, 160 00:03:43.789 --> 00:03:44.410 stinky water. 161 00:03:44.750 --> 00:03:45.593 So I do that. 162 00:03:45.893 --> 00:03:46.582 At this point, 163 00:03:46.733 --> 00:03:47.212 Feder's like, 164 00:03:47.292 --> 00:03:47.412 hey, 165 00:03:47.492 --> 00:03:48.393 I wanna go outside 166 00:03:48.703 --> 00:03:49.003 again. 167 00:03:49.292 --> 00:03:50.042 Sometimes it happens, 168 00:03:50.212 --> 00:03:53.173 he has to like pee and then later he'll realise I need to poop, 169 00:03:53.253 --> 00:03:53.373 right? 170 00:03:53.453 --> 00:03:54.212 So we go out twice. 171 00:03:54.412 --> 00:03:55.082 And this time I'm like, 172 00:03:55.132 --> 00:03:55.332 oh, 173 00:03:55.563 --> 00:03:56.393 walking around the block, 174 00:03:56.492 --> 00:03:56.652 you know, 175 00:03:56.813 --> 00:03:57.613 walking around the block, 176 00:03:57.692 --> 00:03:58.873 that's what I usually do. 177 00:03:59.093 --> 00:03:59.563 Um, 178 00:03:59.772 --> 00:04:00.253 and 179 00:04:00.453 --> 00:04:01.602 I get there and like 180 00:04:01.852 --> 00:04:02.712 every person 181 00:04:02.973 --> 00:04:05.052 is walking their dog and Feather doesn't like other dogs, 182 00:04:05.132 --> 00:04:08.013 he'll go like psycho on some dogs and it's always like difficult. 183 00:04:08.115 --> 00:04:08.636 To like 184 00:04:09.035 --> 00:04:10.516 control that and restrain that 185 00:04:10.916 --> 00:04:14.076 because you need to like walk the fine line between like training your dog 186 00:04:14.076 --> 00:04:16.995 not to do that in the future and people think you're killing your dog, 187 00:04:17.415 --> 00:04:17.425 right? 188 00:04:17.834 --> 00:04:17.995 So 189 00:04:18.355 --> 00:04:20.156 you kind of like have to like walk that line, 190 00:04:20.235 --> 00:04:22.415 like whatever training methodology you use, 191 00:04:22.515 --> 00:04:24.055 you have to like walk that line. 192 00:04:24.316 --> 00:04:24.585 Uh, 193 00:04:24.596 --> 00:04:26.156 and so I've tried to walk that line 194 00:04:26.395 --> 00:04:26.876 and 195 00:04:26.996 --> 00:04:31.135 I think everything's OK cos all the dogs are gone and I walk past someone's um, 196 00:04:31.529 --> 00:04:31.869 Uh, 197 00:04:31.890 --> 00:04:33.429 BMW Mini and it's got 198 00:04:33.570 --> 00:04:36.149 the UK flag on its roof and on its wing mirrors 199 00:04:36.290 --> 00:04:38.450 and just cos like I like messing with people a 200 00:04:38.450 --> 00:04:40.339 little bit and having a little bit of banter, 201 00:04:40.640 --> 00:04:41.170 I'm like, 202 00:04:41.410 --> 00:04:42.070 nice car, 203 00:04:42.429 --> 00:04:42.679 uh, 204 00:04:42.850 --> 00:04:43.970 I'm British by the way, 205 00:04:44.049 --> 00:04:47.369 and I say a bunch of British stuff and this this lovely old lady, 206 00:04:47.609 --> 00:04:48.070 um, 207 00:04:48.089 --> 00:04:50.010 sees it as an opportunity to talk my ear off, 208 00:04:50.130 --> 00:04:51.890 so we have like a 10 to 15 minute. 209 00:04:52.029 --> 00:04:52.769 Conversation 210 00:04:53.049 --> 00:04:53.549 um 211 00:04:53.709 --> 00:04:55.910 in front of her BMW car about how the 212 00:04:55.910 --> 00:04:58.350 fact like it's actually not British and I'm like well 213 00:04:58.549 --> 00:05:01.130 yeah I know that and I'm trying to explain like the whole British 214 00:05:01.269 --> 00:05:02.470 thing is just like marketing, 215 00:05:02.549 --> 00:05:02.790 right? 216 00:05:03.109 --> 00:05:04.829 uh but she doesn't seem to be understanding me. 217 00:05:04.989 --> 00:05:06.529 Then another dog comes back 218 00:05:06.670 --> 00:05:07.130 and 219 00:05:07.269 --> 00:05:08.529 Father goes psycho again, 220 00:05:08.570 --> 00:05:10.269 but now I'm like trying to walk the line 221 00:05:10.269 --> 00:05:12.510 between like conversation with a polite old lady. 222 00:05:12.880 --> 00:05:13.040 Uh, 223 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:14.480 feather going psycho mode, 224 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:16.359 me just wanting to be at home, 225 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:18.119 out of this situation. 226 00:05:18.320 --> 00:05:19.350 So I eventually get out of that, 227 00:05:19.640 --> 00:05:20.660 come back into the house. 228 00:05:20.760 --> 00:05:21.160 By this point, 229 00:05:21.239 --> 00:05:23.010 the washer has finished another cycle, 230 00:05:23.119 --> 00:05:24.399 and so I pull everything out and it, 231 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:25.600 it looks clean this time, 232 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:25.959 but hey, 233 00:05:26.029 --> 00:05:27.190 the washer still isn't draining. 234 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:28.640 So now I've got the problem where it's like, 235 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:28.880 OK, 236 00:05:28.989 --> 00:05:30.920 well now there's no feather toy in the drain pool. 237 00:05:31.119 --> 00:05:32.779 Why is it still not draining? 238 00:05:32.929 --> 00:05:33.299 Um, 239 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:34.230 so then I get to my 240 00:05:34.352 --> 00:05:35.042 Desk and I'm like, 241 00:05:35.243 --> 00:05:35.542 hey, 242 00:05:36.042 --> 00:05:37.912 let's set up like some, 243 00:05:38.122 --> 00:05:38.583 some 244 00:05:38.842 --> 00:05:39.912 random form of, 245 00:05:39.963 --> 00:05:40.923 of V tubing, 246 00:05:41.083 --> 00:05:41.322 right? 247 00:05:41.483 --> 00:05:41.673 Let's, 248 00:05:41.722 --> 00:05:42.683 let's just try it. 249 00:05:42.763 --> 00:05:43.162 And I'm like, 250 00:05:43.243 --> 00:05:44.233 I'll use in my like, 251 00:05:44.442 --> 00:05:44.562 you know, 252 00:05:44.683 --> 00:05:45.662 masky avatar, 253 00:05:45.722 --> 00:05:46.162 etc. 254 00:05:46.282 --> 00:05:46.463 I'll, 255 00:05:46.523 --> 00:05:47.542 I'll try that one out. 256 00:05:47.763 --> 00:05:48.243 Um, 257 00:05:48.322 --> 00:05:49.792 and so I VRM it, 258 00:05:49.842 --> 00:05:51.062 I get everything together 259 00:05:51.203 --> 00:05:53.792 and I put it into a programme called VNan, 260 00:05:54.923 --> 00:05:55.113 VNN. 261 00:05:55.966 --> 00:05:56.305 V2, 262 00:05:56.316 --> 00:05:57.425 but you'll know about that one 263 00:05:57.686 --> 00:06:00.045 and uh it hasn't exported the mask, 264 00:06:00.205 --> 00:06:01.675 so I was just like cool. 265 00:06:01.846 --> 00:06:03.226 This is my sign to just 266 00:06:03.406 --> 00:06:03.805 give up. 267 00:06:03.925 --> 00:06:03.996 Uh, 268 00:06:04.006 --> 00:06:05.485 for anyone who's wondering why it's black, 269 00:06:05.686 --> 00:06:06.286 it doesn't, 270 00:06:06.365 --> 00:06:08.506 it transmits to OBS as like a, 271 00:06:08.515 --> 00:06:10.855 a transparent overlay so the background doesn't actually matter. 272 00:06:10.955 --> 00:06:11.156 Uh, 273 00:06:11.165 --> 00:06:12.645 most characters that I'll be fine with, 274 00:06:12.716 --> 00:06:13.946 but I am 90% 275 00:06:14.175 --> 00:06:14.545 black. 276 00:06:14.726 --> 00:06:16.536 Don't out of context quote that. 277 00:06:16.566 --> 00:06:17.105 Um, 278 00:06:17.846 --> 00:06:18.305 uh, 279 00:06:18.335 --> 00:06:18.705 anyway, 280 00:06:19.006 --> 00:06:19.925 let us move on. 281 00:06:20.859 --> 00:06:21.809 Let us move on, 282 00:06:21.869 --> 00:06:22.040 uh, 283 00:06:22.109 --> 00:06:23.269 to actual questions. 284 00:06:23.459 --> 00:06:23.720 Uh, 285 00:06:23.790 --> 00:06:26.290 at that point when the office hours started, 286 00:06:26.670 --> 00:06:27.299 um, 287 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:27.690 uh, 288 00:06:27.750 --> 00:06:30.179 Feder then started barking at the door and I was just like, 289 00:06:30.470 --> 00:06:32.200 you completely ruined my day, 290 00:06:32.350 --> 00:06:32.519 Fedder. 291 00:06:33.029 --> 00:06:34.029 You could go into your, 292 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:34.750 and it's a nice crate, 293 00:06:34.869 --> 00:06:35.429 there's a blanket, 294 00:06:35.510 --> 00:06:36.549 there's a water bowl in there, 295 00:06:36.589 --> 00:06:36.750 you know, 296 00:06:36.790 --> 00:06:38.019 it's appropriately sized, 297 00:06:38.220 --> 00:06:38.250 uh look up 298 00:06:38.670 --> 00:06:39.500 creating your own shore. 299 00:06:39.750 --> 00:06:40.140 Um, 300 00:06:40.390 --> 00:06:41.010 best place for, 301 00:06:41.190 --> 00:06:41.500 I'm gonna, 302 00:06:42.260 --> 00:06:44.190 so let's move on to actual questions. 303 00:06:44.470 --> 00:06:45.190 I was only rambling. 304 00:06:45.305 --> 00:06:45.756 For 7 minutes. 305 00:06:46.055 --> 00:06:46.346 That's it. 306 00:06:46.786 --> 00:06:46.795 Uh, 307 00:06:46.936 --> 00:06:47.216 Zerovac says, 308 00:06:47.256 --> 00:06:48.045 what is the better version, 309 00:06:48.055 --> 00:06:48.216 A, 310 00:06:48.265 --> 00:06:48.406 B, 311 00:06:48.415 --> 00:06:48.906 or C? 312 00:06:49.026 --> 00:06:49.496 Um, 313 00:06:49.735 --> 00:06:50.335 none of these. 314 00:06:50.496 --> 00:06:53.316 And the reason behind them is none of the options 315 00:06:53.496 --> 00:06:54.515 tell me what the button 316 00:06:54.735 --> 00:06:55.045 does. 317 00:06:55.256 --> 00:06:55.365 Uh, 318 00:06:55.455 --> 00:06:58.526 you'll notice like the login with Google button or whatever, 319 00:06:58.575 --> 00:06:58.855 like, 320 00:06:58.895 --> 00:07:01.015 it's always like sign in with Google or something, 321 00:07:01.055 --> 00:07:01.816 like there's a, 322 00:07:02.126 --> 00:07:02.566 um, 323 00:07:02.726 --> 00:07:02.855 you know, 324 00:07:02.936 --> 00:07:03.555 there's like a, 325 00:07:03.566 --> 00:07:05.055 some sort of indication of what it does. 326 00:07:05.246 --> 00:07:05.575 Uh, 327 00:07:05.696 --> 00:07:08.256 right now the button looks like it's gloopy with resonite, 328 00:07:08.295 --> 00:07:09.506 and if I don't know what gloopy is, 329 00:07:09.555 --> 00:07:09.895 it's just. 330 00:07:10.002 --> 00:07:10.492 Like 331 00:07:10.682 --> 00:07:12.321 paint splodge with resinite. 332 00:07:12.492 --> 00:07:13.152 What does that mean? 333 00:07:13.361 --> 00:07:13.592 What does, 334 00:07:13.682 --> 00:07:14.441 what does that button do? 335 00:07:14.601 --> 00:07:17.562 I'm trying to think of something you sign into with Google now that I'm not 336 00:07:17.562 --> 00:07:19.682 signed in so I can get a picture of what their stuff looks like. 337 00:07:19.761 --> 00:07:21.441 But then I realised like Google Image search, 338 00:07:21.641 --> 00:07:21.802 yeah, 339 00:07:21.891 --> 00:07:22.242 here we go. 340 00:07:22.391 --> 00:07:22.842 So like this, 341 00:07:22.921 --> 00:07:24.641 this is what like people usually see, 342 00:07:24.721 --> 00:07:24.881 right? 343 00:07:24.921 --> 00:07:25.391 It's like, 344 00:07:25.402 --> 00:07:25.522 what, 345 00:07:25.601 --> 00:07:25.761 what, 346 00:07:25.842 --> 00:07:26.641 what do you wanna do? 347 00:07:26.881 --> 00:07:27.312 And like, 348 00:07:27.562 --> 00:07:28.221 here's another one 349 00:07:28.441 --> 00:07:29.721 which is like log in with Google. 350 00:07:29.761 --> 00:07:31.071 Like it tells me what the button even and you know, 351 00:07:32.242 --> 00:07:32.582 not 352 00:07:32.682 --> 00:07:32.842 to, 353 00:07:33.002 --> 00:07:34.161 to toot my own horn here, 354 00:07:34.242 --> 00:07:34.631 but. 355 00:07:35.140 --> 00:07:38.010 Even the wiki has login with residue, 356 00:07:38.140 --> 00:07:38.339 uh, 357 00:07:38.459 --> 00:07:38.760 so 358 00:07:38.940 --> 00:07:40.880 do another iteration of that, 359 00:07:41.140 --> 00:07:41.730 um, 360 00:07:42.059 --> 00:07:42.609 and like 361 00:07:42.859 --> 00:07:43.160 put, 362 00:07:43.299 --> 00:07:44.899 like there's room for login there, 363 00:07:45.209 --> 00:07:45.420 uh, 364 00:07:45.559 --> 00:07:45.649 so, 365 00:07:45.779 --> 00:07:46.290 so go for that. 366 00:07:46.459 --> 00:07:47.359 Next up, 367 00:07:47.500 --> 00:07:48.640 uh, 368 00:07:48.940 --> 00:07:49.609 what the dog doing? 369 00:07:49.700 --> 00:07:50.179 Well. 370 00:07:52.029 --> 00:07:53.779 What isn't the dog doing today? 371 00:07:54.029 --> 00:07:54.230 Uh, 372 00:07:54.309 --> 00:07:54.869 Xerex is, 373 00:07:54.910 --> 00:07:56.510 what specifically do you need to automate? 374 00:07:56.709 --> 00:07:56.929 Right, 375 00:07:57.070 --> 00:07:58.790 so if I can get the VRM fixed, 376 00:07:58.829 --> 00:07:59.619 then I'll probably do 377 00:07:59.880 --> 00:08:00.790 like two avatars, 378 00:08:00.829 --> 00:08:03.630 I'll probably do the one you might see me in more casually and the, 379 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.149 the suit one just because the suit one doesn't have as much expression, 380 00:08:06.390 --> 00:08:06.609 um, 381 00:08:06.709 --> 00:08:08.070 into a V-tubing application. 382 00:08:08.329 --> 00:08:09.649 Try that out for a bit, 383 00:08:09.869 --> 00:08:10.109 um, 384 00:08:10.190 --> 00:08:12.070 at which point someone will have probably made like 385 00:08:12.070 --> 00:08:14.510 a V-tubing suite I can use inside resinite, 386 00:08:14.630 --> 00:08:14.989 um, 387 00:08:15.070 --> 00:08:15.230 um, 388 00:08:15.309 --> 00:08:15.730 whatever. 389 00:08:15.829 --> 00:08:16.260 Um, 390 00:08:16.429 --> 00:08:16.700 I just, 391 00:08:16.750 --> 00:08:17.260 I spend so, 392 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:19.179 it's like really difficult cos it's like I spend so 393 00:08:19.179 --> 00:08:21.329 much time working on resinite but so little time. 394 00:08:21.470 --> 00:08:21.929 In res, 395 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:22.890 like when I hang up 396 00:08:23.029 --> 00:08:23.820 from office hours, 397 00:08:23.829 --> 00:08:25.230 I probably have to walk the dog again. 398 00:08:25.470 --> 00:08:25.850 Um, 399 00:08:25.869 --> 00:08:26.489 and then, 400 00:08:26.549 --> 00:08:27.079 um, 401 00:08:27.149 --> 00:08:28.839 I've gotta spend all day with the, 402 00:08:28.910 --> 00:08:29.989 the business obelisks. 403 00:08:30.109 --> 00:08:31.910 I'll talk about that later when we get to the obelisk. 404 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:32.510 Um, 405 00:08:32.739 --> 00:08:35.808 and none of that is like actually like playing resonate. 406 00:08:36.150 --> 00:08:37.750 And when I'm done with all of that, 407 00:08:37.869 --> 00:08:38.030 which, 408 00:08:38.049 --> 00:08:40.080 which would include like probably like, 409 00:08:40.308 --> 00:08:40.750 I don't know, 410 00:08:40.830 --> 00:08:42.369 like 15 to 20 411 00:08:42.859 --> 00:08:46.830 build compiles of resonite and launches to try and fix something resolves, 412 00:08:46.979 --> 00:08:47.109 uh, 413 00:08:47.190 --> 00:08:48.590 I don't wanna launch it again and, 414 00:08:48.599 --> 00:08:50.349 and go fight with people, 415 00:08:50.789 --> 00:08:51.070 so. 416 00:08:51.549 --> 00:08:51.650 Uh, 417 00:08:51.710 --> 00:08:52.570 it's really difficult, 418 00:08:52.700 --> 00:08:52.880 like, 419 00:08:52.909 --> 00:08:53.190 trust me, 420 00:08:53.239 --> 00:08:53.830 I love Residite, 421 00:08:53.950 --> 00:08:54.780 I love working on it, 422 00:08:54.869 --> 00:08:56.340 but like sometimes it's just like, 423 00:08:56.429 --> 00:08:56.630 hey, 424 00:08:56.710 --> 00:08:56.789 I, 425 00:08:56.869 --> 00:08:56.989 I, 426 00:08:57.070 --> 00:08:59.049 I physically cannot launch this again, 427 00:08:59.440 --> 00:08:59.789 um, 428 00:08:59.950 --> 00:09:00.510 hence why, 429 00:09:00.549 --> 00:09:00.669 like, 430 00:09:00.739 --> 00:09:00.909 you know, 431 00:09:01.030 --> 00:09:02.309 some sort of V-tubing app seems, 432 00:09:02.330 --> 00:09:03.580 seems better positioned 433 00:09:03.940 --> 00:09:04.109 right now. 434 00:09:04.309 --> 00:09:04.460 Um, 435 00:09:04.510 --> 00:09:06.450 as for automation for here in Discord, 436 00:09:06.630 --> 00:09:06.789 um, 437 00:09:06.830 --> 00:09:08.710 it's less needed when we're over on Twitch 438 00:09:08.710 --> 00:09:10.270 cos lots of questions coming in from Twitch, 439 00:09:10.390 --> 00:09:13.630 but it'll be like the announcement of the stream, 440 00:09:13.830 --> 00:09:14.039 uh, 441 00:09:14.070 --> 00:09:14.950 the stream going live. 442 00:09:15.030 --> 00:09:17.429 Like I know all of these things like have automation 443 00:09:17.429 --> 00:09:19.349 for them and that's why like Twitch is the solution. 444 00:09:19.690 --> 00:09:20.140 Uh, 445 00:09:20.260 --> 00:09:20.539 but like, 446 00:09:20.609 --> 00:09:20.780 you know, 447 00:09:20.900 --> 00:09:22.080 making bread, 448 00:09:22.340 --> 00:09:23.619 like at office hours, 449 00:09:23.659 --> 00:09:25.179 like oh we're starting soon, 450 00:09:25.260 --> 00:09:26.099 all that stuff, 451 00:09:26.179 --> 00:09:26.419 it's just, 452 00:09:26.500 --> 00:09:27.580 it's so like, 453 00:09:27.780 --> 00:09:29.559 unless you're like on the ball, 454 00:09:29.809 --> 00:09:31.979 it's so easy to like forget parts of it. 455 00:09:32.140 --> 00:09:32.179 Yeah, 456 00:09:32.260 --> 00:09:33.419 I've been thinking about NAN, 457 00:09:33.690 --> 00:09:34.179 um, 458 00:09:34.489 --> 00:09:35.119 I've got 459 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:36.559 um two servers, 460 00:09:36.619 --> 00:09:37.150 um, 461 00:09:37.260 --> 00:09:38.260 I talked about them a little bit, 462 00:09:38.380 --> 00:09:39.179 maybe I'll put them on the wiki, 463 00:09:39.260 --> 00:09:39.539 I don't know, 464 00:09:39.619 --> 00:09:40.000 whatever. 465 00:09:40.219 --> 00:09:40.729 Um, 466 00:09:41.059 --> 00:09:42.400 they are two Dell, 467 00:09:42.700 --> 00:09:43.049 um, 468 00:09:43.059 --> 00:09:43.890 Optiplexes, 469 00:09:44.010 --> 00:09:45.340 and they were shipped from Australia, 470 00:09:45.419 --> 00:09:45.820 um, 471 00:09:45.900 --> 00:09:46.380 do you remember? 472 00:09:46.650 --> 00:09:48.099 And uh they're fantastic, 473 00:09:48.179 --> 00:09:50.140 but one of them literally doesn't run anything. 474 00:09:50.380 --> 00:09:53.059 One of them runs like a headless if I need it to 475 00:09:53.299 --> 00:09:55.239 um and piehole I think, 476 00:09:55.419 --> 00:09:56.539 which I haven't configured like I, 477 00:09:56.580 --> 00:09:58.640 I just kind of like I ran it so like it's running, 478 00:09:58.900 --> 00:10:02.919 but I haven't configured my router to serve it as the DNS so like it's doing nothing. 479 00:10:03.340 --> 00:10:04.619 Like it's on my to do list, 480 00:10:04.659 --> 00:10:05.200 it's like 481 00:10:05.460 --> 00:10:07.960 do the final stage of piehole which is like make the 482 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:10.820 router like give that as where DNS goes through etc. 483 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:11.169 And 484 00:10:11.429 --> 00:10:13.140 I just haven't done that in like 6 months, 485 00:10:13.270 --> 00:10:14.650 but the other one is like completely, 486 00:10:14.710 --> 00:10:15.359 it's running nothing, 487 00:10:15.429 --> 00:10:17.419 it's off right now cos we had a power cut and I, 488 00:10:17.429 --> 00:10:19.609 I didn't need to turn it back on again cos it isn't running anything. 489 00:10:19.750 --> 00:10:20.969 But it is like 490 00:10:21.150 --> 00:10:21.609 I could 491 00:10:21.789 --> 00:10:22.789 go onto that right now, 492 00:10:22.909 --> 00:10:23.690 get clone a 493 00:10:23.909 --> 00:10:24.469 like a 494 00:10:24.669 --> 00:10:27.830 repo or like a docker container and easily run it, 495 00:10:27.909 --> 00:10:29.479 so I'll maybe I'll play around with an Ian. 496 00:10:29.940 --> 00:10:30.510 Uh, 497 00:10:30.830 --> 00:10:31.140 OK, 498 00:10:31.349 --> 00:10:33.330 next up is competent user 499 00:10:33.510 --> 00:10:34.869 who says how are things in the obelisk, 500 00:10:34.950 --> 00:10:35.270 so. 501 00:10:35.619 --> 00:10:36.169 Um, 502 00:10:36.530 --> 00:10:38.929 there are many layers of management between, 503 00:10:38.940 --> 00:10:38.950 uh, 504 00:10:39.390 --> 00:10:40.489 the people I speak to 505 00:10:40.750 --> 00:10:44.849 and like the people who control how much money gets assigned to them, 506 00:10:44.869 --> 00:10:46.380 and sometimes there are gaps in that. 507 00:10:46.469 --> 00:10:50.229 So we've had someone in the sort of middle area um has 508 00:10:50.229 --> 00:10:52.450 been on vacation for a long time and they've just got back 509 00:10:52.669 --> 00:10:54.450 and uh that will help 510 00:10:54.590 --> 00:10:57.750 because uh we're actually out of budget for that particular project. 511 00:10:57.909 --> 00:10:59.679 So we need more money assigned. 512 00:10:59.909 --> 00:10:59.950 Um, 513 00:11:00.429 --> 00:11:01.979 there is probably going to be a conversation at 514 00:11:01.979 --> 00:11:04.250 some point of like why are we over budget 515 00:11:04.469 --> 00:11:05.150 and uh. 516 00:11:05.463 --> 00:11:06.293 That's an interesting one. 517 00:11:06.372 --> 00:11:07.372 It's basically like, 518 00:11:07.723 --> 00:11:09.002 before I started the project, 519 00:11:09.052 --> 00:11:10.353 I gave a rough estimate 520 00:11:10.543 --> 00:11:11.002 and then I said, 521 00:11:11.093 --> 00:11:11.213 hey, 522 00:11:11.293 --> 00:11:12.213 this is rough, 523 00:11:12.312 --> 00:11:12.643 um, 524 00:11:12.812 --> 00:11:12.973 you know, 525 00:11:13.052 --> 00:11:14.593 it's contingent on 526 00:11:14.812 --> 00:11:17.453 me speaking with the corporate team over there to 527 00:11:17.453 --> 00:11:20.163 see what like restrictions or requirements they have, 528 00:11:20.413 --> 00:11:21.372 because like they could have turned around, 529 00:11:21.413 --> 00:11:21.692 like the, 530 00:11:21.783 --> 00:11:24.172 the corporate security team there could have turned around and said like, 531 00:11:24.252 --> 00:11:24.333 nope, 532 00:11:24.453 --> 00:11:25.252 web sockets are banned, 533 00:11:25.322 --> 00:11:26.752 you can't do webSockets ever. 534 00:11:27.013 --> 00:11:27.822 That's just an example. 535 00:11:27.932 --> 00:11:28.612 They didn't do that. 536 00:11:28.692 --> 00:11:28.853 I mean, 537 00:11:28.893 --> 00:11:31.293 there are some web socket issues with that particular network, 538 00:11:31.413 --> 00:11:31.922 but like, 539 00:11:32.122 --> 00:11:32.252 you know, 540 00:11:32.333 --> 00:11:33.893 they could say no web sockets aren't allowed. 541 00:11:34.132 --> 00:11:34.853 At which point it's like. 542 00:11:35.075 --> 00:11:35.546 Oh no, 543 00:11:35.815 --> 00:11:35.955 right, 544 00:11:36.015 --> 00:11:37.755 but we haven't had that conversation, 545 00:11:37.916 --> 00:11:38.036 um, 546 00:11:38.075 --> 00:11:40.395 and so that's why we're over budget because there were a 547 00:11:40.395 --> 00:11:43.356 lot of instances of that that did cause a problem. 548 00:11:43.515 --> 00:11:43.755 Uh, 549 00:11:43.856 --> 00:11:44.786 most notably, 550 00:11:44.916 --> 00:11:45.495 it's, 551 00:11:45.796 --> 00:11:46.166 hey, 552 00:11:46.315 --> 00:11:46.745 um, 553 00:11:46.986 --> 00:11:49.026 for anything to run on our corporate cloud, 554 00:11:49.075 --> 00:11:50.435 it needs to be infrastructure is code. 555 00:11:50.515 --> 00:11:52.125 We don't allow manual deployments. 556 00:11:52.435 --> 00:11:55.156 And what they mean by that is like they do in the test environments, 557 00:11:55.195 --> 00:11:57.556 like I have access to a test environment and a prod environment. 558 00:11:57.635 --> 00:11:58.455 In the test environment, 559 00:11:58.596 --> 00:12:00.596 I have access to create an Azure resource, 560 00:12:00.835 --> 00:12:01.755 but in the prod environment, 561 00:12:01.796 --> 00:12:04.255 I don't have access to create an Azure resource. 562 00:12:04.578 --> 00:12:06.739 Has to be driven from infrastructure as code. 563 00:12:06.939 --> 00:12:07.979 So that became like, 564 00:12:08.018 --> 00:12:08.299 instead of, 565 00:12:08.458 --> 00:12:08.609 hey, 566 00:12:08.658 --> 00:12:10.629 let's deploy another copy of our cloud, 567 00:12:11.088 --> 00:12:11.588 um, 568 00:12:11.739 --> 00:12:12.718 like a mechanic 569 00:12:12.939 --> 00:12:14.619 to um their corporate cloud, 570 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:15.198 it became, 571 00:12:15.539 --> 00:12:17.708 I have to programme a robot 572 00:12:17.838 --> 00:12:19.018 and periodically, 573 00:12:19.338 --> 00:12:20.148 computer says no, 574 00:12:20.458 --> 00:12:21.138 and so like, 575 00:12:21.218 --> 00:12:21.359 oh, 576 00:12:21.458 --> 00:12:21.528 no, 577 00:12:21.578 --> 00:12:22.578 there's a security issue there. 578 00:12:22.619 --> 00:12:24.398 So the current security problem is 579 00:12:24.739 --> 00:12:25.078 that 580 00:12:25.299 --> 00:12:25.799 our 581 00:12:25.979 --> 00:12:28.778 UDP session traffic is not encrypted, 582 00:12:28.979 --> 00:12:30.239 so we might have to encrypt it. 583 00:12:30.458 --> 00:12:30.859 Um, 584 00:12:31.059 --> 00:12:31.429 but, 585 00:12:31.698 --> 00:12:31.888 uh, 586 00:12:31.898 --> 00:12:32.809 aside from that, 587 00:12:32.929 --> 00:12:34.098 what they're doing is they're. 588 00:12:34.242 --> 00:12:35.242 Isolating 589 00:12:35.562 --> 00:12:37.901 the like copy of the resonant cloud 590 00:12:38.161 --> 00:12:41.521 from the rest of the cloud that does have like completely encrypted traffic. 591 00:12:41.692 --> 00:12:42.252 And, 592 00:12:42.331 --> 00:12:42.802 um, 593 00:12:42.921 --> 00:12:44.901 that's allowing them to bypass some security. 594 00:12:45.081 --> 00:12:46.942 But this is a temporary endeavour, 595 00:12:47.122 --> 00:12:47.591 um, 596 00:12:47.721 --> 00:12:48.101 and 597 00:12:48.211 --> 00:12:51.142 they're like TBDing us like the long-term fix. 598 00:12:51.401 --> 00:12:51.632 Um, 599 00:12:51.762 --> 00:12:53.421 hence why I have to spend a lot of time, 600 00:12:53.601 --> 00:12:54.021 uh, 601 00:12:54.322 --> 00:12:57.382 verifying that their isolation and route is 602 00:12:57.642 --> 00:12:58.882 appropriate and works. 603 00:12:59.002 --> 00:12:59.291 Um, 604 00:12:59.432 --> 00:13:03.302 and that route that they've isolated for me only works for my IP address, 605 00:13:03.401 --> 00:13:03.841 like one IP. 606 00:13:04.184 --> 00:13:04.424 address. 607 00:13:04.544 --> 00:13:04.914 So, 608 00:13:05.104 --> 00:13:06.604 the moment I get a stable 609 00:13:06.934 --> 00:13:09.994 resonate session connection to the corporate cloud headless, 610 00:13:10.364 --> 00:13:10.405 uh, 611 00:13:10.465 --> 00:13:12.075 I then have to write an email and explain like, 612 00:13:12.184 --> 00:13:12.344 yes, 613 00:13:12.375 --> 00:13:13.025 it works, 614 00:13:13.215 --> 00:13:13.604 but 615 00:13:13.825 --> 00:13:14.695 only for me, 616 00:13:15.104 --> 00:13:15.645 because 617 00:13:15.905 --> 00:13:17.164 that's the way you set it up. 618 00:13:17.424 --> 00:13:20.114 Can we have a conversation about what's required to make it work for anyone? 619 00:13:20.604 --> 00:13:20.614 Uh, 620 00:13:20.625 --> 00:13:21.505 and at that point, 621 00:13:21.744 --> 00:13:23.784 it might be encrypting session traffic. 622 00:13:23.864 --> 00:13:24.255 At that point, 623 00:13:24.265 --> 00:13:24.625 it's like, 624 00:13:24.744 --> 00:13:24.905 well, 625 00:13:24.945 --> 00:13:26.455 this is another one of those cases where, 626 00:13:26.465 --> 00:13:26.775 like, 627 00:13:26.784 --> 00:13:30.044 it wasn't factored into the budget because you didn't tell me it was needed, 628 00:13:30.265 --> 00:13:30.414 uh, 629 00:13:30.585 --> 00:13:31.645 so hence we need more. 630 00:13:31.744 --> 00:13:33.484 If any of that didn't make sense. 631 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:33.919 Yeah, 632 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:35.369 it doesn't really make sense to me, 633 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:35.909 but, 634 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:36.570 uh, 635 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:37.280 we'll get there. 636 00:13:37.400 --> 00:13:37.510 Uh, 637 00:13:37.520 --> 00:13:37.760 for instance, 638 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:38.640 why is GitHub, 639 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.820 I'm currently trying to work on an issue and GitHub is dying again. 640 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:43.020 I have like an old friend, 641 00:13:43.119 --> 00:13:44.520 we worked together on Mixer, 642 00:13:44.719 --> 00:13:45.070 um, 643 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:46.859 and now they work on VS code, 644 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:47.549 and I'm like, 645 00:13:47.719 --> 00:13:48.080 oh my God, 646 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.340 I can have an actual conversation with this person, 647 00:13:50.450 --> 00:13:50.929 um, 648 00:13:51.119 --> 00:13:53.739 about VS code and what the heck is going on over there, 649 00:13:53.909 --> 00:13:54.440 uh, 650 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:54.869 but, 651 00:13:55.239 --> 00:13:55.679 um, 652 00:13:55.760 --> 00:13:56.820 I kind of don't want to 653 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.820 cos like that turns me into 654 00:13:59.299 --> 00:13:59.440 uh. 655 00:13:59.710 --> 00:14:01.390 The equivalent of what happens in resonate, 656 00:14:01.549 --> 00:14:01.710 like, 657 00:14:01.750 --> 00:14:01.900 oh, 658 00:14:01.909 --> 00:14:03.510 I'm good friends with Frixia, 659 00:14:03.630 --> 00:14:04.010 so 660 00:14:04.630 --> 00:14:06.960 I know that I shouldn't bother them about this work thing, 661 00:14:07.070 --> 00:14:09.409 but I'm going to bother them about this work thing. 662 00:14:09.590 --> 00:14:09.869 I don't, 663 00:14:09.950 --> 00:14:10.859 I don't want to be that guy, 664 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:11.039 uh, 665 00:14:11.150 --> 00:14:12.630 so I haven't actually had that conversation. 666 00:14:12.830 --> 00:14:12.960 Um, 667 00:14:13.270 --> 00:14:14.979 but I also know someone who works at GitHub, 668 00:14:14.989 --> 00:14:15.690 and I'm like, 669 00:14:15.950 --> 00:14:18.179 do I actually need to have that conversation? 670 00:14:18.390 --> 00:14:19.489 It's like very easy. 671 00:14:19.549 --> 00:14:20.190 It's like 672 00:14:20.510 --> 00:14:21.530 stop going down, 673 00:14:21.710 --> 00:14:22.609 like figure it out, 674 00:14:22.789 --> 00:14:23.669 stop going down. 675 00:14:24.140 --> 00:14:24.570 What um 676 00:14:24.789 --> 00:14:25.289 isn't. 677 00:14:25.590 --> 00:14:26.440 Um, 678 00:14:26.669 --> 00:14:26.789 like, 679 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:28.799 communicated enough in downtime, 680 00:14:29.119 --> 00:14:30.559 both on like data sites and, 681 00:14:30.599 --> 00:14:32.619 and also when we have downtime is, 682 00:14:32.900 --> 00:14:33.000 uh, 683 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:33.369 yeah, 684 00:14:33.650 --> 00:14:34.109 resonate 685 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:35.099 might 686 00:14:35.479 --> 00:14:37.630 not lose money when there's downtime, 687 00:14:37.880 --> 00:14:40.159 but we do lose trust and the same thing's happening with Cb. 688 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:41.080 Hub probably actually does. 689 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:42.900 lose money when it's down, 690 00:14:43.140 --> 00:14:43.400 but 691 00:14:43.500 --> 00:14:44.820 it also loses trust, 692 00:14:44.900 --> 00:14:46.859 and I believe it's the trust that is eroding 693 00:14:46.859 --> 00:14:48.979 more with the downtime right now than the money. 694 00:14:49.229 --> 00:14:51.799 So if you need to pull back on some like initiative 695 00:14:51.940 --> 00:14:53.710 that you're trying to make money with, 696 00:14:53.859 --> 00:14:56.700 that doesn't actually have a lot of future in making money. 697 00:14:57.140 --> 00:14:57.590 Maybe 698 00:14:57.729 --> 00:14:59.090 pull back on that 699 00:14:59.330 --> 00:15:01.590 and put it into like trust 700 00:15:01.849 --> 00:15:03.530 and you'll make more money in the long run. 701 00:15:03.690 --> 00:15:04.380 But I know that if, 702 00:15:04.390 --> 00:15:06.469 if Mixer was having these exact same 703 00:15:06.609 --> 00:15:08.250 like stability issues, 704 00:15:08.609 --> 00:15:11.289 someone would be very red-facedly trying not to yell 705 00:15:11.289 --> 00:15:12.210 at someone else cos of course you know. 706 00:15:12.380 --> 00:15:12.820 Corporate invite, 707 00:15:12.869 --> 00:15:13.869 you can't like yell, 708 00:15:14.030 --> 00:15:16.030 but you can still look visibly pissed off. 709 00:15:16.309 --> 00:15:17.359 Why is it down again? 710 00:15:17.750 --> 00:15:20.570 They say with like a vein bulging in their temple, 711 00:15:20.580 --> 00:15:21.570 whilst like, 712 00:15:22.109 --> 00:15:22.799 excuse me, 713 00:15:23.150 --> 00:15:24.250 sorry to bother you. 714 00:15:24.669 --> 00:15:25.780 Why is the site down? 715 00:15:25.909 --> 00:15:27.690 Is there like foreheads bulging? 716 00:15:27.909 --> 00:15:28.429 Yeah. 717 00:15:28.830 --> 00:15:29.020 Oh yeah, 718 00:15:29.070 --> 00:15:30.309 the postmortems are like really fun, 719 00:15:30.409 --> 00:15:31.229 so for those who don't know, 720 00:15:31.270 --> 00:15:32.630 a postmortem is like a, 721 00:15:32.669 --> 00:15:34.809 a document or maybe in some cases a meeting. 722 00:15:35.260 --> 00:15:37.539 That you have after a large service incident, 723 00:15:37.789 --> 00:15:38.200 um, 724 00:15:38.270 --> 00:15:38.869 where, 725 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:40.679 here's the HR talk starting, 726 00:15:41.190 --> 00:15:42.570 everyone is free to share, 727 00:15:42.950 --> 00:15:43.359 uh, 728 00:15:43.429 --> 00:15:45.830 problems and suggestions and feedback on, 729 00:15:45.849 --> 00:15:45.890 on, 730 00:15:45.900 --> 00:15:49.010 on what we can do to make this not fucking happen again. 731 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:52.599 And so like in that sort of thing, 732 00:15:52.650 --> 00:15:53.880 you'll do stuff like, 733 00:15:54.090 --> 00:15:54.320 yeah, 734 00:15:54.450 --> 00:15:54.950 so 735 00:15:55.090 --> 00:15:55.570 uh 736 00:15:55.869 --> 00:15:56.780 this other team, 737 00:15:57.090 --> 00:16:00.090 even though you know specifically the person on that team who caused the issue, 738 00:16:00.369 --> 00:16:01.950 um had some issues with 739 00:16:02.130 --> 00:16:04.929 up like in some cases you know exactly what the cause is, 740 00:16:05.010 --> 00:16:07.630 it's like they forgot a semicolon and tried to deploy it or something. 741 00:16:07.770 --> 00:16:08.770 You can't just talk straight, 742 00:16:08.809 --> 00:16:10.369 you have to do all this like weird HR. 743 00:16:10.570 --> 00:16:12.770 I'm taking these socks off cos I don't know who's they are. 744 00:16:12.809 --> 00:16:13.549 They're not mine. 745 00:16:13.770 --> 00:16:14.280 They're weird, 746 00:16:14.450 --> 00:16:15.020 another weird quote. 747 00:16:15.359 --> 00:16:16.049 uh moving forward. 748 00:16:16.340 --> 00:16:16.619 Words, 749 00:16:16.690 --> 00:16:17.380 um, 750 00:16:17.640 --> 00:16:18.950 there's a bunch of talk about Gearhub, 751 00:16:19.020 --> 00:16:20.059 so we're gonna go back there, 752 00:16:20.280 --> 00:16:20.559 um, 753 00:16:20.650 --> 00:16:21.460 but first of all, 754 00:16:21.640 --> 00:16:22.190 uh, 755 00:16:22.869 --> 00:16:22.880 there, 756 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:24.940 did you know that Ask Jeeves Ask finally shut down? 757 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:25.239 Yeah, 758 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:26.330 it's actually crazy, 759 00:16:26.359 --> 00:16:26.640 um, 760 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:28.520 cos Ask Jeeves being like sort of one of, 761 00:16:28.580 --> 00:16:29.599 I'm not sure if it's the first, 762 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:30.200 don't quote me, 763 00:16:30.210 --> 00:16:30.599 etc. 764 00:16:30.719 --> 00:16:31.460 don't put me in a book, 765 00:16:31.719 --> 00:16:33.419 but like one of the first search engines. 766 00:16:33.520 --> 00:16:33.880 Um, 767 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:35.159 when it first launched, 768 00:16:35.280 --> 00:16:36.580 people were searching 769 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:38.739 how you might talk to an AI these days. 770 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:38.960 Uh, 771 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:41.559 so they'd go to Ask Jeeves and because the whole branding. 772 00:16:41.690 --> 00:16:42.710 I'd ask Jeeves was like, 773 00:16:42.789 --> 00:16:43.590 he's a butler, 774 00:16:43.909 --> 00:16:45.150 talk to him like a human, 775 00:16:45.270 --> 00:16:45.609 right? 776 00:16:45.869 --> 00:16:46.820 It would be like, 777 00:16:47.270 --> 00:16:49.869 instead of doing like what we would usually do in Google today, 778 00:16:49.950 --> 00:16:51.409 like capital of France, 779 00:16:51.909 --> 00:16:52.539 it'd be like, 780 00:16:52.789 --> 00:16:53.909 what is the capital of France, 781 00:16:54.219 --> 00:16:54.590 question mark, 782 00:16:54.669 --> 00:16:54.789 right? 783 00:16:54.830 --> 00:16:56.330 You'd write a full sentence. 784 00:16:56.590 --> 00:16:56.890 Um, 785 00:16:56.900 --> 00:16:58.059 and then everyone like figured out, 786 00:16:58.150 --> 00:16:58.299 hey, 787 00:16:58.309 --> 00:17:00.580 for Google you can just be a bit rude and terse, 788 00:17:00.669 --> 00:17:02.299 so like capital of France will do it. 789 00:17:02.549 --> 00:17:04.469 You don't even need capital of France, 790 00:17:04.630 --> 00:17:05.449 capital France, 791 00:17:06.329 --> 00:17:07.079 we'll we'll get it for you. 792 00:17:07.390 --> 00:17:08.770 But then AI came in 793 00:17:08.989 --> 00:17:09.709 and it's like, 794 00:17:09.949 --> 00:17:10.469 hi, 795 00:17:10.670 --> 00:17:11.089 I'm 796 00:17:11.630 --> 00:17:13.709 AI smiley face, 797 00:17:13.910 --> 00:17:14.910 what do you wanna know? 798 00:17:14.989 --> 00:17:17.260 And we're back to typing full sentences 799 00:17:17.550 --> 00:17:17.959 like, 800 00:17:18.030 --> 00:17:19.439 what is the capital of France? 801 00:17:19.819 --> 00:17:20.439 Gemini? 802 00:17:20.670 --> 00:17:21.729 What is the capital of France? 803 00:17:22.300 --> 00:17:22.790 Claude, 804 00:17:22.900 --> 00:17:23.069 you know, 805 00:17:23.150 --> 00:17:23.650 it's it's like, 806 00:17:23.660 --> 00:17:23.819 oh, 807 00:17:23.829 --> 00:17:24.060 OK, 808 00:17:24.108 --> 00:17:25.459 we've put the human element back in. 809 00:17:25.670 --> 00:17:26.770 But there is this project, 810 00:17:26.989 --> 00:17:27.608 um, 811 00:17:27.829 --> 00:17:28.790 I don't actually know what it is, 812 00:17:28.869 --> 00:17:29.109 I just, 813 00:17:29.189 --> 00:17:30.150 I've just seen the thumbnail, 814 00:17:30.189 --> 00:17:31.089 but I do want to, 815 00:17:31.109 --> 00:17:31.520 uh, 816 00:17:31.630 --> 00:17:32.469 cos I think I know. 817 00:17:32.589 --> 00:17:33.630 I haven't watched this video, 818 00:17:33.719 --> 00:17:35.109 so I'm just gonna like blind link it, 819 00:17:35.219 --> 00:17:35.869 but just from the. 820 00:17:35.979 --> 00:17:36.300 Thumbnail, 821 00:17:36.380 --> 00:17:37.489 I think I know what it's, 822 00:17:37.619 --> 00:17:41.479 it's some sort of utility for working with LLMs 823 00:17:41.739 --> 00:17:44.040 where it removes unnecessary words. 824 00:17:44.300 --> 00:17:44.699 Um, 825 00:17:44.819 --> 00:17:46.050 and purely from the thumbnail, 826 00:17:46.099 --> 00:17:48.099 I know exactly like what sort of thing it is. 827 00:17:48.170 --> 00:17:48.569 It's like it, 828 00:17:48.619 --> 00:17:48.739 it, 829 00:17:48.819 --> 00:17:49.170 it's, 830 00:17:49.180 --> 00:17:49.369 uh, 831 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:49.930 for the recording, 832 00:17:49.939 --> 00:17:50.439 it says, 833 00:17:50.619 --> 00:17:50.729 uh, 834 00:17:50.739 --> 00:17:51.380 caveman, 835 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:53.699 why use many tokens when few do trick? 836 00:17:53.770 --> 00:17:55.290 And it's exactly the same problem of like, 837 00:17:55.300 --> 00:17:55.959 if you send 838 00:17:56.420 --> 00:17:58.079 what is the capital of France 839 00:17:58.180 --> 00:17:58.859 to an AI, 840 00:17:59.339 --> 00:18:00.439 what is the 841 00:18:00.750 --> 00:18:02.989 uh extra tokens that you don't need to pay for. 842 00:18:03.219 --> 00:18:03.540 So I, 843 00:18:03.619 --> 00:18:04.540 I promised to watch that video. 844 00:18:04.689 --> 00:18:04.959 Some point, 845 00:18:05.089 --> 00:18:05.849 but uh yes, 846 00:18:05.930 --> 00:18:06.770 it actually does work. 847 00:18:06.849 --> 00:18:08.050 You don't need fellow work. 848 00:18:08.199 --> 00:18:08.459 Alright, 849 00:18:08.569 --> 00:18:09.689 moving forwards, 850 00:18:09.739 --> 00:18:10.479 uh, 851 00:18:10.810 --> 00:18:10.880 oh, 852 00:18:10.930 --> 00:18:12.290 freak says I have the same issue with the residents. 853 00:18:12.329 --> 00:18:13.650 I wanna do a bunch of stuff with the format, 854 00:18:13.719 --> 00:18:14.369 invite more people, 855 00:18:14.489 --> 00:18:15.250 do more fun stuff, 856 00:18:15.329 --> 00:18:16.910 but throughout the week I have no capacity for it. 857 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:17.459 And then it's like, 858 00:18:17.489 --> 00:18:17.770 oh crap, 859 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:18.209 it's Sunday, 860 00:18:18.250 --> 00:18:18.760 I need to do it, 861 00:18:18.810 --> 00:18:19.989 no time to figure it out now. 862 00:18:20.300 --> 00:18:20.569 Yeah, 863 00:18:20.869 --> 00:18:21.189 exactly. 864 00:18:21.410 --> 00:18:21.569 I, 865 00:18:21.650 --> 00:18:23.349 I actually don't mind like how rough 866 00:18:23.489 --> 00:18:24.790 mine is sometimes cos it's like, 867 00:18:24.810 --> 00:18:24.930 hey, 868 00:18:24.969 --> 00:18:28.000 we're just trying to be like open and honest about like how we're in development. 869 00:18:28.209 --> 00:18:29.079 Like me telling you, 870 00:18:29.489 --> 00:18:29.750 hey, 871 00:18:29.890 --> 00:18:30.130 um, 872 00:18:30.239 --> 00:18:31.010 here's what's gonna happen, 873 00:18:31.089 --> 00:18:31.880 I'm probably gonna 874 00:18:32.250 --> 00:18:33.209 like finish here. 875 00:18:33.550 --> 00:18:34.079 Um, 876 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:35.939 go see if the dog needs anything, 877 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:36.630 um, 878 00:18:36.760 --> 00:18:39.540 get another like caffeinated drink of some kind, 879 00:18:40.040 --> 00:18:41.680 play a couple of rounds of Deadlock, 880 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:42.510 and then actually, 881 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:43.839 like that's just how I roll it. 882 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:44.479 Um, 883 00:18:44.709 --> 00:18:45.359 that's why everyone's like, 884 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:46.069 when do you work, 885 00:18:46.199 --> 00:18:47.000 when I feel like it. 886 00:18:47.199 --> 00:18:49.910 And that like extra work is probably to be from like. 887 00:18:50.005 --> 00:18:52.494 At that point to like 23 a.m. 888 00:18:52.765 --> 00:18:55.204 where I'm like scratching my head looking at their firewall rolls, 889 00:18:55.285 --> 00:18:55.625 so, 890 00:18:55.885 --> 00:18:56.035 uh, 891 00:18:56.045 --> 00:18:56.555 Radel says, 892 00:18:56.564 --> 00:18:59.635 have you guys considered alternatives to GitHub given the current situation? 893 00:19:00.125 --> 00:19:00.244 Uh, 894 00:19:00.324 --> 00:19:02.244 I know it may be reactionary to some extent, 895 00:19:02.405 --> 00:19:04.834 but there's been a noticeable degradation of service across the last few months, 896 00:19:04.864 --> 00:19:05.604 if not years now, 897 00:19:05.765 --> 00:19:06.344 um. 898 00:19:06.739 --> 00:19:07.160 Yes, 899 00:19:07.300 --> 00:19:09.020 we've like talked about it briefly, 900 00:19:09.140 --> 00:19:10.219 nothing serious though, 901 00:19:10.280 --> 00:19:12.250 and I would hope that we don't do anything serious. 902 00:19:12.500 --> 00:19:16.560 The last thing we need to do is a migration of a source like host 903 00:19:16.699 --> 00:19:17.280 right now, 904 00:19:17.500 --> 00:19:17.959 um, 905 00:19:18.459 --> 00:19:21.359 particularly if GitHub gets its act together. 906 00:19:21.619 --> 00:19:22.140 Um, 907 00:19:22.420 --> 00:19:24.770 and I think GitHub will get its act together, 908 00:19:25.060 --> 00:19:26.739 but we might have to deal with the bumps. 909 00:19:26.859 --> 00:19:30.000 So it turns into sort of like a cost-benefit analysis. 910 00:19:30.290 --> 00:19:30.699 Um, 911 00:19:30.859 --> 00:19:31.689 at this point, 912 00:19:32.020 --> 00:19:32.760 would we be 913 00:19:33.140 --> 00:19:34.300 good moving to GitHub? 914 00:19:34.459 --> 00:19:35.010 Unknown. 915 00:19:35.270 --> 00:19:35.300 Uh. 916 00:19:35.452 --> 00:19:35.972 Git lab even, 917 00:19:36.281 --> 00:19:36.732 uh, 918 00:19:36.802 --> 00:19:38.462 if the stability 919 00:19:38.791 --> 00:19:40.661 decreases even more, 920 00:19:40.881 --> 00:19:42.261 and we are losing 921 00:19:42.682 --> 00:19:44.631 more time than it would take to migrate, 922 00:19:44.911 --> 00:19:45.121 OK, 923 00:19:45.202 --> 00:19:45.682 maybe it's a, 924 00:19:45.761 --> 00:19:46.692 it's a better thing to do, 925 00:19:46.802 --> 00:19:48.031 and then other people go like, 926 00:19:48.241 --> 00:19:48.352 well, 927 00:19:48.362 --> 00:19:49.661 it's not only like 928 00:19:49.842 --> 00:19:50.761 the stability problems, 929 00:19:50.802 --> 00:19:53.682 it's like the stability be plus the like co-pilot, 930 00:19:53.702 --> 00:19:54.031 like, 931 00:19:54.232 --> 00:19:54.472 uh, 932 00:19:54.482 --> 00:19:55.082 shoehorning. 933 00:19:55.121 --> 00:19:55.352 I'm like, 934 00:19:55.401 --> 00:19:55.482 yeah, 935 00:19:55.562 --> 00:19:55.671 I, 936 00:19:55.722 --> 00:19:56.151 I get it, 937 00:19:56.202 --> 00:19:56.982 I understand. 938 00:19:57.202 --> 00:19:57.621 But again, 939 00:19:58.121 --> 00:19:59.381 cost-benefit analysis. 940 00:19:59.641 --> 00:20:01.822 What does the engineering team 941 00:20:02.202 --> 00:20:02.582 at 942 00:20:02.881 --> 00:20:04.082 Hello Dog Band Studios need? 943 00:20:04.404 --> 00:20:04.843 Right now, 944 00:20:05.203 --> 00:20:05.904 less work. 945 00:20:06.034 --> 00:20:06.223 Uh, 946 00:20:06.384 --> 00:20:06.843 so 947 00:20:07.014 --> 00:20:08.313 we have considered it. 948 00:20:08.583 --> 00:20:08.774 Uh, 949 00:20:08.823 --> 00:20:11.004 I don't know what would make us pull the actual button. 950 00:20:11.183 --> 00:20:11.494 Um, 951 00:20:11.744 --> 00:20:13.923 probably like 2 to 3 more issues maybe. 952 00:20:14.223 --> 00:20:14.303 Uh, 953 00:20:14.384 --> 00:20:15.484 here's the thing as well, 954 00:20:15.784 --> 00:20:17.244 J4 would like, 955 00:20:17.463 --> 00:20:19.244 J4 would move heaven and earth 956 00:20:19.404 --> 00:20:22.043 to make us have a really smooth transition to Gitlab, 957 00:20:22.303 --> 00:20:24.083 and I know they'd do a fantastic job, 958 00:20:24.223 --> 00:20:25.384 but that's also part of the cost benefit 959 00:20:25.534 --> 00:20:26.223 analysis, 960 00:20:26.303 --> 00:20:27.063 cause if we like go, 961 00:20:27.144 --> 00:20:27.384 hey, 962 00:20:27.463 --> 00:20:28.484 let's move to GitLab, 963 00:20:28.904 --> 00:20:30.543 what I'm effectively saying is like, 964 00:20:30.784 --> 00:20:31.813 hey J4, 965 00:20:32.024 --> 00:20:32.784 here is like. 966 00:20:32.965 --> 00:20:33.625 He's like a, 967 00:20:33.765 --> 00:20:34.965 like an oil drum 968 00:20:35.326 --> 00:20:37.485 full of oil for you to like sort out 969 00:20:37.686 --> 00:20:40.265 that you didn't need to sort out if we could be a bit patient. 970 00:20:40.605 --> 00:20:41.556 So again it's like it's, 971 00:20:41.566 --> 00:20:42.276 it's difficult. 972 00:20:42.406 --> 00:20:44.326 It's also really difficult when the like 973 00:20:44.485 --> 00:20:45.086 um 974 00:20:45.245 --> 00:20:46.826 the difficulty isn't like a, 975 00:20:46.836 --> 00:20:48.316 a massive degradation of service, 976 00:20:48.365 --> 00:20:48.875 it's just like, 977 00:20:48.885 --> 00:20:49.066 hey, 978 00:20:49.086 --> 00:20:51.286 for another hour you can't do something and then everything worked. 979 00:20:51.436 --> 00:20:52.196 If it was like, 980 00:20:52.465 --> 00:20:52.686 hey, 981 00:20:52.725 --> 00:20:54.936 we're down for like 23 days 982 00:20:55.206 --> 00:20:55.816 at a time, 983 00:20:55.926 --> 00:20:56.765 it'd be more, 984 00:20:56.885 --> 00:20:57.566 more problematic. 985 00:20:58.056 --> 00:20:58.066 Uh, 986 00:20:58.166 --> 00:20:58.436 so everybody says, 987 00:20:58.446 --> 00:20:58.656 OK, 988 00:20:58.686 --> 00:20:59.115 I fixed it, 989 00:20:59.166 --> 00:21:00.005 how does this look now? 990 00:21:00.206 --> 00:21:01.605 I agree with what uh. 991 00:21:01.748 --> 00:21:02.657 Places just below that, 992 00:21:02.667 --> 00:21:04.907 which is mixing square round buttons feels dissonant. 993 00:21:04.988 --> 00:21:08.488 Maybe if login with resonant came first or sound down the other edges. 994 00:21:08.787 --> 00:21:08.947 Uh, 995 00:21:09.187 --> 00:21:09.307 agree, 996 00:21:09.427 --> 00:21:09.588 yeah. 997 00:21:09.787 --> 00:21:09.907 Uh, 998 00:21:09.988 --> 00:21:13.147 you have to reduce the border radius on login with red resonite 999 00:21:13.307 --> 00:21:15.887 or increase the border radius on everything else. 1000 00:21:16.187 --> 00:21:16.508 Um, 1001 00:21:16.588 --> 00:21:21.008 I have a pet peeve about border radiuses like the one you're using though, 1002 00:21:21.287 --> 00:21:21.868 uh, 1003 00:21:22.187 --> 00:21:24.887 which is they are too overly rounded 1004 00:21:24.988 --> 00:21:27.508 and the rounded bit gets too alias. 1005 00:21:27.628 --> 00:21:30.427 So zoom in a little bit on the login with resonate button. 1006 00:21:30.729 --> 00:21:32.949 And look at the aliasing on that corner, 1007 00:21:33.170 --> 00:21:36.400 cos what I actually see is like a different shape now. 1008 00:21:36.650 --> 00:21:40.069 I see the straight lines and then the aliased edge 1009 00:21:40.209 --> 00:21:41.170 and then the straight lines, 1010 00:21:41.209 --> 00:21:41.619 it's weird, 1011 00:21:41.689 --> 00:21:44.329 but like just like if you expand it and then zoom in a little bit, 1012 00:21:44.369 --> 00:21:44.849 you'll see it. 1013 00:21:45.089 --> 00:21:48.119 So I would reduce the rounding on the logging with razor light button a bit, 1014 00:21:48.250 --> 00:21:49.099 uh CPU. 1015 00:21:49.329 --> 00:21:49.449 No, 1016 00:21:49.609 --> 00:21:50.189 I think it says, 1017 00:21:50.209 --> 00:21:50.449 uh, 1018 00:21:50.459 --> 00:21:51.959 didn't Inus help create GitHub? 1019 00:21:52.209 --> 00:21:53.229 They made Git, 1020 00:21:53.290 --> 00:21:53.709 um, 1021 00:21:53.729 --> 00:21:54.810 but not GitHub. 1022 00:21:55.040 --> 00:21:55.250 Uh, 1023 00:21:55.290 --> 00:21:58.949 if you're interested in why there's a bunch of like open source drama, 1024 00:21:59.130 --> 00:21:59.599 um, 1025 00:21:59.609 --> 00:22:02.219 around like naming and trademarks going on, 1026 00:22:02.530 --> 00:22:02.609 uh, 1027 00:22:02.630 --> 00:22:03.430 if you're not sure what I mean, 1028 00:22:03.500 --> 00:22:05.410 like last year's big one was WordPress, 1029 00:22:05.449 --> 00:22:07.900 I still don't quite understand the details behind that one. 1030 00:22:08.209 --> 00:22:09.930 But there was a lot of sort of drama 1031 00:22:09.930 --> 00:22:12.160 in the open source community about the WordPress name. 1032 00:22:12.449 --> 00:22:14.709 Things like Git versus GitHub 1033 00:22:14.930 --> 00:22:15.369 are why, 1034 00:22:15.489 --> 00:22:15.770 right? 1035 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:17.160 So Linus 1036 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:17.880 was, 1037 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:18.359 I mean, 1038 00:22:18.469 --> 00:22:20.069 probably very difficult and expensive, 1039 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:21.660 but Linus was within 1040 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:23.310 um his right to 1041 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:28.040 like register a trademark for Git that would have prevented the creation of GitHub, 1042 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.780 they would have had to call it something else. 1043 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:30.650 Um, 1044 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:32.229 but Linus did not, 1045 00:22:32.520 --> 00:22:32.900 so 1046 00:22:33.199 --> 00:22:35.170 they made GitHub and now there's two get coming. 1047 00:22:35.310 --> 00:22:35.959 And so like, 1048 00:22:36.199 --> 00:22:37.790 Linus despises GitHub 1049 00:22:37.959 --> 00:22:39.560 but like can't do anything about it. 1050 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:41.020 It's a bit like the difference between. 1051 00:22:42.219 --> 00:22:42.619 Linux, 1052 00:22:42.760 --> 00:22:44.739 Unix and GNU Unix, 1053 00:22:45.020 --> 00:22:45.979 like all that stuff, 1054 00:22:46.140 --> 00:22:46.969 again that's just like it's, 1055 00:22:47.010 --> 00:22:49.780 it's complicated naming stuff that like shouldn't be an issue 1056 00:22:49.780 --> 00:22:52.520 but is because of associations formed from those names. 1057 00:22:52.739 --> 00:22:54.420 And with that I think we're out of questions, 1058 00:22:54.459 --> 00:22:54.969 I'm I'm, 1059 00:22:55.020 --> 00:22:55.979 I'm double checking. 1060 00:22:56.180 --> 00:22:58.209 It's one from Xerex which is Servago. 1061 00:22:58.375 --> 00:22:59.255 Bert and just 1062 00:22:59.515 --> 00:23:00.334 adds a video, 1063 00:23:00.435 --> 00:23:01.234 I presume 1064 00:23:01.385 --> 00:23:03.084 it's a server you're adding to your rack. 1065 00:23:03.354 --> 00:23:03.425 Oh, 1066 00:23:03.474 --> 00:23:04.314 it's server's booting up, 1067 00:23:04.375 --> 00:23:04.814 I see. 1068 00:23:05.035 --> 00:23:05.185 Uh, 1069 00:23:05.194 --> 00:23:06.295 a question for like 1070 00:23:06.435 --> 00:23:07.314 rack owners, 1071 00:23:07.395 --> 00:23:09.545 even like marginally small ones. 1072 00:23:09.795 --> 00:23:10.915 What do you do when you move? 1073 00:23:11.104 --> 00:23:12.155 Let's say you're hosting, 1074 00:23:12.234 --> 00:23:12.594 what's it called, 1075 00:23:12.675 --> 00:23:13.025 image, 1076 00:23:13.114 --> 00:23:14.734 the like the photo thing 1077 00:23:14.994 --> 00:23:16.334 and you're gonna move apartments. 1078 00:23:16.594 --> 00:23:17.574 Let's take for example, 1079 00:23:17.665 --> 00:23:18.875 uh someone in the community called Marshall. 1080 00:23:18.935 --> 00:23:20.314 Marshall hosts a bunch of servers. 1081 00:23:20.395 --> 00:23:22.114 Let's say Marshall just needs to move houses. 1082 00:23:22.314 --> 00:23:23.954 uh double checking for questions, 1083 00:23:24.074 --> 00:23:24.795 that one's done now. 1084 00:23:24.994 --> 00:23:25.074 Yeah, 1085 00:23:25.155 --> 00:23:25.265 I think, 1086 00:23:25.354 --> 00:23:26.074 I think we're good now. 1087 00:23:26.410 --> 00:23:26.500 Yeah, 1088 00:23:26.540 --> 00:23:28.439 I think Marshall would have like a tonne of downtime. 1089 00:23:28.619 --> 00:23:29.780 And what I don't understand about that, 1090 00:23:29.859 --> 00:23:30.050 right, 1091 00:23:30.140 --> 00:23:32.290 is if you de-Google completely, 1092 00:23:32.459 --> 00:23:32.660 right, 1093 00:23:32.780 --> 00:23:33.050 so I, 1094 00:23:33.099 --> 00:23:33.219 I, 1095 00:23:33.300 --> 00:23:33.339 I, 1096 00:23:33.449 --> 00:23:33.579 you know, 1097 00:23:33.619 --> 00:23:34.699 I shut down my Google account, 1098 00:23:34.780 --> 00:23:35.839 I don't pay for it anymore, 1099 00:23:36.280 --> 00:23:36.780 um, 1100 00:23:37.099 --> 00:23:37.219 right, 1101 00:23:37.300 --> 00:23:39.280 and so and then there's no connection and I move 1102 00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:41.239 and I need like email. 1103 00:23:41.500 --> 00:23:42.369 How do I get email, 1104 00:23:42.579 --> 00:23:43.000 right? 1105 00:23:43.619 --> 00:23:46.329 Cause if my mail server is like in a U-Haul, 1106 00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:47.599 I can't get email. 1107 00:23:47.890 --> 00:23:49.660 And so what if my like the new place I'm living. 1108 00:23:49.890 --> 00:23:51.520 Like the landlord emails me and says, 1109 00:23:51.910 --> 00:23:52.060 oh, 1110 00:23:52.140 --> 00:23:52.739 there's a problem, 1111 00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:54.380 your new place is like 1112 00:23:54.579 --> 00:23:55.329 on fire, 1113 00:23:55.540 --> 00:23:55.780 uh, 1114 00:23:55.859 --> 00:23:56.520 don't come. 1115 00:23:56.780 --> 00:24:00.260 I can't get the email cause my email server is in the U-Haul. 1116 00:24:00.910 --> 00:24:01.040 A says, 1117 00:24:01.050 --> 00:24:03.369 I don't host critical infrastructure outside of my house, 1118 00:24:03.619 --> 00:24:03.819 out of, 1119 00:24:03.939 --> 00:24:04.739 out of your house even. 1120 00:24:04.900 --> 00:24:05.319 Um, 1121 00:24:05.660 --> 00:24:07.530 but isn't that the point of de-Gogling? 1122 00:24:07.739 --> 00:24:07.819 Well, 1123 00:24:07.859 --> 00:24:08.209 they're like, 1124 00:24:08.260 --> 00:24:08.739 if you have a, 1125 00:24:08.780 --> 00:24:09.209 like, 1126 00:24:09.420 --> 00:24:09.920 I pay, 1127 00:24:09.979 --> 00:24:10.489 I think, 1128 00:24:10.699 --> 00:24:13.060 I think like 2 or 4 bucks a month for the. 1129 00:24:13.140 --> 00:24:13.880 Google shit. 1130 00:24:14.099 --> 00:24:14.849 If I want like a, 1131 00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:15.420 like a, 1132 00:24:15.530 --> 00:24:15.689 a, 1133 00:24:15.739 --> 00:24:15.900 a, 1134 00:24:16.020 --> 00:24:16.319 a 1135 00:24:16.560 --> 00:24:17.880 VPS somewhere, 1136 00:24:18.339 --> 00:24:19.890 that's gonna be more than like 2 or 3 bucks. 1137 00:24:19.989 --> 00:24:20.119 Actually, 1138 00:24:20.180 --> 00:24:21.739 how much is uh, 1139 00:24:22.060 --> 00:24:22.140 yeah, 1140 00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:23.199 it's 20 bucks. 1141 00:24:23.619 --> 00:24:23.699 Yeah, 1142 00:24:23.739 --> 00:24:24.459 that's the other problem, 1143 00:24:24.540 --> 00:24:25.500 it's like residential, 1144 00:24:25.579 --> 00:24:26.069 like 1145 00:24:26.579 --> 00:24:27.250 I need to figure it out. 1146 00:24:27.300 --> 00:24:28.010 I also need to like, 1147 00:24:28.020 --> 00:24:29.560 if anyone else has de Googled recently, 1148 00:24:30.020 --> 00:24:31.780 can you like let me know what happens to all the 1149 00:24:31.780 --> 00:24:34.660 login with Google buttons that you've used and don't remember using? 1150 00:24:34.699 --> 00:24:35.140 Cause it's like I, 1151 00:24:35.260 --> 00:24:36.420 there are a bunch of places I've just logged. 1152 00:24:36.540 --> 00:24:39.680 Log in with Googled and like I have an account and I use that service 1153 00:24:39.939 --> 00:24:41.939 and like if I shut down Google by Google 1154 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:45.699 Googling, 1155 00:24:45.859 --> 00:24:46.369 um, 1156 00:24:46.699 --> 00:24:47.239 then 1157 00:24:47.890 --> 00:24:49.369 I do those accounts just get lost. 1158 00:24:49.699 --> 00:24:49.819 Yeah, 1159 00:24:49.900 --> 00:24:50.420 cause the, 1160 00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:52.199 the unique ID of the Google account, 1161 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:52.650 yeah, 1162 00:24:52.699 --> 00:24:53.400 but I don't remember, 1163 00:24:53.660 --> 00:24:54.260 that's the problem, 1164 00:24:54.339 --> 00:24:54.540 right? 1165 00:24:54.589 --> 00:24:57.170 I don't remember what I'm logging lo logging, 1166 00:24:57.660 --> 00:24:58.380 I can't say that. 1167 00:24:58.640 --> 00:24:59.079 Log in Google. 1168 00:25:00.410 --> 00:25:02.660 I wanna stop making baby noises and just move on. 1169 00:25:02.930 --> 00:25:06.069 I guess there's probably a list somewhere like in the Google account 1170 00:25:06.280 --> 00:25:07.650 settings or dashboard 1171 00:25:07.890 --> 00:25:08.689 that can, 1172 00:25:08.849 --> 00:25:09.400 um, 1173 00:25:09.609 --> 00:25:11.550 give me a list and then like ones I care about, 1174 00:25:11.569 --> 00:25:13.449 I can like migrate or like add a, 1175 00:25:13.459 --> 00:25:14.699 a password to or whatever. 1176 00:25:14.969 --> 00:25:15.250 Yeah, 1177 00:25:15.439 --> 00:25:15.619 yeah, 1178 00:25:15.729 --> 00:25:16.040 yeah, 1179 00:25:16.209 --> 00:25:16.810 that's a lot of work. 1180 00:25:16.969 --> 00:25:17.339 That's fine on the. 1181 00:25:19.949 --> 00:25:20.099 I'm, 1182 00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:20.689 I'm done. 1183 00:25:20.949 --> 00:25:21.229 Alright, 1184 00:25:21.510 --> 00:25:22.869 we're gonna close up office hours, 1185 00:25:22.949 --> 00:25:24.650 I'll see you later before I just make 1186 00:25:25.369 --> 00:25:26.229 baby noises 1187 00:25:26.430 --> 00:25:27.530 for another 10 minutes. 1188 00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:27.739 Uh, 1189 00:25:27.790 --> 00:25:29.119 I'll speak to you guys soon.