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let's stop the hour,

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so we can go ahead and get started.

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Welcome to office hours,

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you can ask any questions you want,

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they can go in the questions thread.

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If you're not always sure what's going on,

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um,

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I don't know,

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maybe read our event feed or something.

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And uh I'll just link the forum thread across in the side chat as well.

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So let's go ahead and,

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and,

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and,

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and do that.

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The emergency temple shift says,

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what's the dog doing?

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The dog is uh digging in the couch and they've managed to like

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pull

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enough of the blanket out of my

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crevices of the couch that uh I need to redo it.

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They usually don't manage to do that,

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but like the couch is especially like

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messy in terms of all the blankets I've got it.

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My couch is basically just like a collection of blankets,

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I'm sure some of you are the same.

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walking forwards,

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I don't know why I'm talking about walking,

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but there we go.

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Epigeon says,

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are you planning on having a server presence on other platforms?

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this is a complex topic

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because it like,

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It straddles the line of like

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personal choices and business choices,

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right?

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personal choices,

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we wouldn't have a Discord server,

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we wouldn't be on X,

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we wouldn't be on Blue Sky,

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we'd be purely on federated stuff like Mastodon or some other federated,

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whatever the hell

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the federated thing is,

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but like Federation.

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I don't like Blue Skies Federation,

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but I don't remember why I don't like Blue Skies Federation,

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so I need to like re-research that.

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but yeah,

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like we wouldn't be on YouTube,

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we'd just be on PeerTube,

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like this is all my personal like reaction,

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and my personal opinion is like we should just do like

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federated everything,

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business wise,

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we basically like cut our audience into like 10% of what it was,

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because that's like a,

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a,

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like a,

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a company that's using social media,

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you need to be as everywhere that you can.

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Like I don't think we're on Instagram right now,

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but we should hecking be on Instagram

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because of the like reels or whatever they're called over on Instagram.

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Facebook reels as well,

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we should be

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everywhere,

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we should have like presences everywhere.

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we should have a Subway advert,

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That's what a business needs to do to grow.

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But that is different

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than like personal objections to like policy and stuff like that.

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And so you have to like separate those.

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There's also the element of business as well,

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like for you,

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like

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picking anyone random here at Eastern,

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swapping between Discord and Fluorop or

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Beepbop or Ropboop boop ba boop

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is very quick,

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You um make a new account,

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you set your profile to be like,

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I've moved over to this account.

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Whatever it is,

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cool,

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um,

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it's like,

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done.

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for a business,

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there's much more to that,

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a bunch of sort of information inside the Discord,

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we have a bunch of like APIs and like SDKs and web hooks,

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and we also have a community here.

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so we can't just instantly drop that.

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we can't,

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like whatever audience is on here,

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some smaller percentage of that would follow us to wherever we're going.

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like I think last week sometime,

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it's like I can't change platforms every 6 months

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and neither can um the company.

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for now we're gonna be on Discord,

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probably in like a week or two when it starts getting closer to,

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to uh February,

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uh another team member will bring it up as a,

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as a topic of conversation,

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maybe at one of our meetings and we'll talk about it and we'll see what we wanna do.

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whatever we do do,

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it'll be slow,

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in some cases slower than you might want it to be,

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you just kind of have to like separate it.

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the reason why so many communities are like

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and what that means is like it divides people,

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if you look at polling numbers and you just go like,

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it's like 50/50 in America,

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it's like,

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67 in America.

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That it's like cool,

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we have the potential

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based on just polling numbers

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to lose half of our audience if we align

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ourselves one way politically or another way politically,

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it's like,

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it's difficult to do that as well.

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business obligations that go beyond the obligations of a regular user.

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sometimes we don't.

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the privacy policy,

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etc.

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of all the tools that we use for our community

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to make sure that they align with our goals.

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that's up in this Discord.

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We had to disable session thumbnails for

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that because we have different policies on nipples

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than Discord.

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that exposed,

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I mean legal liability is the wrong word cos it's Discord,

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but it exposed our Discord server

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liability in terms of like being shut down or reported because

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we had that misalignment.

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But that misalignment and legal restrictions goes

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than we're able to control,

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because we are a European company

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and we are part of the European Union,

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and like every European Union country right now is signing age verification laws.

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unless it's self-hosted.

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it's gonna happen.

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we can fight it,

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we can hop over to bleep blop and floop blop and boopydi boop,

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unless those are self-hosted,

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it's gonna require age verification within like a year or two anyway.

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now we have to stand up like effectively like space in someone's brain to be like

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maintain it,

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let's make sure it's like hardened against security issues,

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and let's make sure it doesn't go down.

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Someone asked me about the wiki performance,

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someone asked me about that.

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just put wiki performance question mark,

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now we're on a self-hosted instance.

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Now let's say that we get as big as like VR chat or um

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or Mixer back in the day.

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we have like Mixer ended with about I think like 130 million monthly active users.

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that number is hyperinflated,

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but like again,

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you can.

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Ask me a question about that one and I'll talk about it.

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so at that

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point.

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We're big enough as a company

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where the individual laws start applying to us directly as a company

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rather than to the platforms that we use or operate within.

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now we're on a self-hosted um like Discord replacement

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that's like secure behind our own firewall,

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whatever,

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blah blah blah blah,

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um,

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but the European Union is sending us a letter and saying,

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you're not compliant.

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I don't

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usually recommend people going to this location,

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and I won't post a link for it,

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but if you know how to get there,

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you know how to get there.

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There's a part of the horrible forum Kiwi Farms,

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which is entirely self-hosted by one very angry person.

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called like

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get this off the internet or somewhere,

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and it's all the legal notices that,

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various like firms,

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companies,

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establishments send to Kiwi Farms,

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and,

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uh,

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if you know the content of Kiwi Farms,

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they get a lot.

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Um,

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glazing over what's on Kiwi Farms,

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um,

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one of the threads is Ofcom,

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which is the UK like

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media and Broadcasting and Internet Authority.

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Um,

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all the companies for like official business in the UK,

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not all of them,

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but like a lot of them,

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they start with off,

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um,

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cos it's more like official

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com,

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official.

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Communications,

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right,

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um,

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the body that controls the schools is called Ofsted,

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uh,

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I don't know what the,

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the,

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like second half of that stands,

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but like if you were in a UK school you knew what Ofsted meant.

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Uh,

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so Ofcom.

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Are repeatedly sending emails to Kiwi Farms and Fourchan who have now formed like a,

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a,

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a like,

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legal alliance under the same lawyer,

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to basically tell Ofcom to go away cos they don't host their,

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their services in,

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in the European Union or anywhere close to the UK

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but Ofcom's sending them like daily emails,

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that's like,

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hey,

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you don't do age verification,

329
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hey,

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you're like breaking all these hate speech laws and,

331
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The Kiwi Farms and 4chan users,

332
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uh,

333
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like administrators are just like emailing back like memes and

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stuff because like they don't think that they are,

335
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um,

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susceptible to that.

337
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And then it becomes a sort of like,

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well,

339
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you're getting into sort of international law here,

340
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right?

341
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And that's all because they're self-hosted.

342
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And so if you don't think it'll happen to us if we self-host stuff.

343
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We

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It will happen if we get as big as we would like.

345
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So at that point,

346
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we'd end up having to implement our own age verification,

347
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at which point everyone's gonna be like,

348
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let's leave resonite cause it's doing age verification.

349
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Like,

350
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the

351
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problem.

352
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Isn't

353
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like age verification itself,

354
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the problem is the laws that are requiring age verification,

355
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which are allowing companies,

356
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this is getting like to prime soapbox here,

357
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so,

358
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like,

359
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take it with a grain of salt,

360
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it goes back to the yellow dog band starts a little bit,

361
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but

362
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um.

363
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The companies that are capitalising on poor wording in age verification laws

364
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because the people writing the age verification laws

365
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don't understand what the internet is.

366
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Um,

367
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so it's really difficult because it's coming for all of us.

368
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Um,

369
00:10:01,469 --> 00:10:02,590
it won't come for like,

370
00:10:02,669 --> 00:10:03,039
I don't know,

371
00:10:03,150 --> 00:10:05,210
like your niche internet community around,

372
00:10:05,309 --> 00:10:05,630
I don't know,

373
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Space Station 13,

374
00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:09,530
like your private Space Station 13 server.

375
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Sorry to pick on Space Station 13,

376
00:10:11,429 --> 00:10:13,250
but I was looking for something incredibly niche,

377
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and that's like very niche,

378
00:10:14,349 --> 00:10:14,729
right?

379
00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:15,510
Um.

380
00:10:16,869 --> 00:10:18,530
They won't come for you cos you're too small,

381
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but if resonite gets as big as we would like it to,

382
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they're,

383
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they're gonna come.

384
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So

385
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that,

386
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going back to,

387
00:10:25,690 --> 00:10:25,809
you know,

388
00:10:25,890 --> 00:10:27,030
the yellow dog beds starts,

389
00:10:27,289 --> 00:10:27,650
that

390
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is why we have to sort of

391
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take more time and do slower things here.

392
00:10:32,690 --> 00:10:34,849
We have to sort of figure out what we wanna do.

393
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So it hasn't been raised as like a a larger meaning topic yet.

394
00:10:38,650 --> 00:10:41,770
There's been some side channel conversations in our in our team Discord about it,

395
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but we don't have like an official stance.

396
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Uh,

397
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to re-clarify at the end of my like tirade of rant,

398
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my like personal stance is I wanna be on federated everything,

399
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and I'm talking proper federation,

400
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not blue sky federation

401
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and.

402
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Uh,

403
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that is like,

404
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that's what I want,

405
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and that's what I wanna set up for my stuff as well,

406
00:11:01,020 --> 00:11:01,289
like,

407
00:11:01,299 --> 00:11:01,409
uh,

408
00:11:01,419 --> 00:11:01,700
people are like,

409
00:11:01,739 --> 00:11:03,099
I should get a blog and

410
00:11:03,369 --> 00:11:04,900
blah blah blah and blah blah blah,

411
00:11:04,929 --> 00:11:05,380
and I'm just like,

412
00:11:05,460 --> 00:11:06,440
well if I'm gonna do that,

413
00:11:06,659 --> 00:11:09,599
I'm gonna go the whole hog and I'm gonna do like federated everything.

414
00:11:09,809 --> 00:11:12,140
Like all my tutorials will be on YouTube and PeerTube,

415
00:11:12,669 --> 00:11:12,880
um,

416
00:11:12,929 --> 00:11:13,359
etc.

417
00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:17,640
Uh,

418
00:11:17,669 --> 00:11:18,469
Easton saying,

419
00:11:18,479 --> 00:11:19,020
um,

420
00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:19,859
that,

421
00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:20,590
um,

422
00:11:20,599 --> 00:11:22,320
she's really annoyed that all of this is happening

423
00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,619
because parents don't want to parent their damn kids.

424
00:11:29,070 --> 00:11:30,130
Back in my day

425
00:11:31,820 --> 00:11:32,719
Tips my hat,

426
00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:34,739
puts on my glasses,

427
00:11:35,099 --> 00:11:35,630
um.

428
00:11:36,409 --> 00:11:39,150
A lot of like kids around the area that I lived in

429
00:11:39,289 --> 00:11:40,440
were basically like

430
00:11:40,690 --> 00:11:41,330
uh I don't know,

431
00:11:41,369 --> 00:11:43,159
like in the morning they were kicked out of the house,

432
00:11:43,239 --> 00:11:43,409
you know,

433
00:11:43,489 --> 00:11:43,640
their,

434
00:11:43,690 --> 00:11:45,229
their parents would say get out of the house,

435
00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:45,989
go play.

436
00:11:47,119 --> 00:11:49,520
And they would just like roam and explore on their

437
00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,840
bicycles and they would like do all sorts of stuff.

438
00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:53,830
If you're looking for a good analogy like the

439
00:11:54,239 --> 00:11:55,710
earlier seasons of Stranger Things,

440
00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:55,950
right,

441
00:11:56,039 --> 00:11:56,460
where

442
00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,030
the,

443
00:11:57,039 --> 00:11:59,840
the friend group there are just sort of riding to each other's houses,

444
00:11:59,950 --> 00:12:00,799
going to the diner,

445
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,989
going bowling,

446
00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,270
like all that sort of stuff,

447
00:12:03,479 --> 00:12:04,640
like that's what we used to do.

448
00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:06,010
And

449
00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:08,219
Back in that day.

450
00:12:09,460 --> 00:12:09,979
Again,

451
00:12:10,070 --> 00:12:10,500
like,

452
00:12:11,349 --> 00:12:14,460
maybe like the parents had conversations when people came home and were like,

453
00:12:14,549 --> 00:12:14,710
hey,

454
00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:15,809
you have fun at the

455
00:12:15,950 --> 00:12:16,869
like bowl rama,

456
00:12:16,950 --> 00:12:17,109
right,

457
00:12:17,150 --> 00:12:19,630
and if anything weird happened it could be resolved that way.

458
00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,229
I think the only thing that's changed is,

459
00:12:22,239 --> 00:12:22,270
is,

460
00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,390
is what what Easter is,

461
00:12:23,429 --> 00:12:24,320
which is the conversation,

462
00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:24,799
you know.

463
00:12:25,159 --> 00:12:28,440
If you come back from like an epic bike ride for like the entire day,

464
00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:28,799
they'll be like,

465
00:12:28,830 --> 00:12:29,320
oh son,

466
00:12:29,359 --> 00:12:30,200
did you have a good day?

467
00:12:30,270 --> 00:12:30,820
And it's like,

468
00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,030
yes,

469
00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:31,799
I had a good day,

470
00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,090
but this like strange person was following me with a knife,

471
00:12:34,119 --> 00:12:34,510
and it's like,

472
00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:34,760
alright,

473
00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,559
we'll get that fixed,

474
00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:35,799
right,

475
00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,150
that's really easy to fix.

476
00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:37,940
Um,

477
00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,059
they could just go ahead and and and sort that out,

478
00:12:40,119 --> 00:12:40,429
right?

479
00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,309
But the internet is just like so broader that it's like,

480
00:12:43,359 --> 00:12:43,580
well,

481
00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,750
well how do you do that?

482
00:12:45,590 --> 00:12:46,090
And

483
00:12:46,809 --> 00:12:47,330
You're right,

484
00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:48,460
the the,

485
00:12:48,469 --> 00:12:48,500
the,

486
00:12:48,580 --> 00:12:48,739
the,

487
00:12:48,780 --> 00:12:50,880
the true answer there is like better parenting,

488
00:12:51,020 --> 00:12:51,609
but like,

489
00:12:51,859 --> 00:12:52,799
they've tried that,

490
00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:54,760
um like Discord has like a.

491
00:12:56,429 --> 00:13:00,229
Parent-centric website and book and all sorts of stuff like that,

492
00:13:00,479 --> 00:13:04,010
so like they're trying to do it and parents are just like oh we don't like,

493
00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,669
I don't know,

494
00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:05,469
67,

495
00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:05,830
right,

496
00:13:06,119 --> 00:13:07,179
so uh,

497
00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:08,880
what are the alternatives?

498
00:13:12,299 --> 00:13:14,669
What I do want you guys to think about as well

499
00:13:14,969 --> 00:13:16,070
is like,

500
00:13:16,609 --> 00:13:19,400
how would you like age verification to work?

501
00:13:19,650 --> 00:13:22,440
Like assuming you have to do it for some sort of reason,

502
00:13:22,770 --> 00:13:23,840
how would you like it to work?

503
00:13:23,929 --> 00:13:26,109
Just have an opinion on that and figure it out

504
00:13:26,530 --> 00:13:26,950
because,

505
00:13:27,010 --> 00:13:27,440
uh,

506
00:13:27,450 --> 00:13:27,809
one day,

507
00:13:27,849 --> 00:13:28,150
and

508
00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,799
we'll resist it as much as we can,

509
00:13:30,049 --> 00:13:33,169
but one day it might come to resonate and at that point,

510
00:13:33,460 --> 00:13:34,349
we'd love

511
00:13:34,489 --> 00:13:36,570
to sort of figure out if there's a way to do it that,

512
00:13:36,669 --> 00:13:37,090
that is,

513
00:13:37,169 --> 00:13:37,510
is

514
00:13:38,049 --> 00:13:38,799
better than,

515
00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,150
than

516
00:13:39,330 --> 00:13:40,789
other methodologies of doing it.

517
00:13:40,969 --> 00:13:41,250
So.

518
00:13:41,729 --> 00:13:41,849
So,

519
00:13:41,969 --> 00:13:42,349
so

520
00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:43,719
think about that.

521
00:13:43,890 --> 00:13:44,289
Like I said,

522
00:13:45,169 --> 00:13:46,210
we're not anytime soon,

523
00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:46,929
but like

524
00:13:47,090 --> 00:13:48,250
if we get as big as we get,

525
00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:48,770
like the,

526
00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,909
the government is gonna start sending us emails.

527
00:13:58,820 --> 00:14:00,090
I mean there's like a like I don't know,

528
00:14:00,140 --> 00:14:01,650
I think cryptography can help here,

529
00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:04,340
I don't quite know how because the only way I operate

530
00:14:04,340 --> 00:14:07,570
with cryptography is I I like Google and research and like

531
00:14:07,820 --> 00:14:09,200
read books and stuff but

532
00:14:09,380 --> 00:14:12,179
like I think there's like a a cryptographic solution here.

533
00:14:14,140 --> 00:14:14,229
Yeah,

534
00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:15,640
I got a debit card at 16,

535
00:14:15,719 --> 00:14:17,010
so like it doesn't really work,

536
00:14:17,070 --> 00:14:17,469
um.

537
00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,840
The other thing about the debit card right,

538
00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,239
is you,

539
00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,239
you probably gave your date of birth or ID to the debit card platform,

540
00:14:27,359 --> 00:14:30,229
so if they have a data breach then like it's still leaked.

541
00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,020
And I know that like payment providers are like usually more secure.

542
00:14:35,020 --> 00:14:35,690
Um,

543
00:14:36,020 --> 00:14:37,580
but like not infallible.

544
00:14:47,989 --> 00:14:49,140
So like I hope,

545
00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,710
I hope no one thought any of my takes in that

546
00:14:51,710 --> 00:14:53,150
particular line of questioning were like

547
00:14:53,150 --> 00:14:55,270
outrageous because honestly it's just like

548
00:14:55,929 --> 00:14:58,909
and I like I'm gonna swear it's my own podcast or whatever you wanna call it.

549
00:14:59,239 --> 00:14:59,919
It's just like,

550
00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,000
you know that like image where like you know the man's got

551
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,770
his hands ruffled through his hair and it's just like fuck.

552
00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,539
Like that's that's the internet right now,

553
00:15:06,599 --> 00:15:07,979
like we're all just trying to survive.

554
00:15:12,070 --> 00:15:13,070
Like the Twitch remote one,

555
00:15:13,239 --> 00:15:13,760
not like this,

556
00:15:13,849 --> 00:15:13,960
yeah,

557
00:15:14,210 --> 00:15:15,080
they're not like this Twitcher remote,

558
00:15:15,119 --> 00:15:16,179
hold on I'll just go grab it.

559
00:15:31,669 --> 00:15:31,799
Uh,

560
00:15:31,809 --> 00:15:33,020
Eyston says my takes were not bad,

561
00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:33,460
excellent,

562
00:15:33,580 --> 00:15:36,380
cos sometimes it feels like if I say anything on these particular topics,

563
00:15:36,419 --> 00:15:38,179
I'm gonna get some pitchforks heading in my direction.

564
00:15:38,260 --> 00:15:39,419
It's like I don't want pitchforks,

565
00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:39,780
man.

566
00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:41,169
I'm just trying to do the right thing.

567
00:15:41,380 --> 00:15:42,320
That's all I'm trying to do.

568
00:15:42,950 --> 00:15:45,070
It's so difficult to do the right thing these days though.

569
00:15:48,820 --> 00:15:49,169
Remember,

570
00:15:49,219 --> 00:15:50,200
we don't sell your data.

571
00:15:50,619 --> 00:15:52,359
Moving forward to the next question.

572
00:15:59,179 --> 00:16:00,039
As Suerov X asks,

573
00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:00,840
attaching to the above,

574
00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,630
would you consider having a discourse forum?

575
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,059
No.

576
00:16:03,869 --> 00:16:05,539
Or at least I personally wouldn't.

577
00:16:06,820 --> 00:16:07,190
Uh,

578
00:16:07,270 --> 00:16:07,859
I don't

579
00:16:08,929 --> 00:16:10,510
I don't think it would be helpful,

580
00:16:10,929 --> 00:16:13,429
and the reason I don't think it would be helpful is because again,

581
00:16:13,609 --> 00:16:16,049
we would have to staff it with people that can,

582
00:16:16,289 --> 00:16:16,679
uh,

583
00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:19,349
first of all moderate it to make sure there's no problematic content on it,

584
00:16:19,530 --> 00:16:19,950
but

585
00:16:20,369 --> 00:16:23,190
you also need a body of people who can actually answer questions

586
00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:26,229
and uh if you wanna like look at the problem,

587
00:16:26,909 --> 00:16:28,390
go into the VR chat Discord

588
00:16:28,770 --> 00:16:32,010
and just like figure out would a for a for a forum,

589
00:16:32,250 --> 00:16:34,369
would a forum fix VR chat's Discord,

590
00:16:34,380 --> 00:16:35,109
and the answer is

591
00:16:35,409 --> 00:16:36,150
probably not.

592
00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:37,739
Um,

593
00:16:37,809 --> 00:16:39,440
a forum certainly doesn't fix,

594
00:16:39,690 --> 00:16:40,020
uh,

595
00:16:40,150 --> 00:16:40,739
Mixer's problems.

596
00:16:40,820 --> 00:16:41,960
We ran a forum for like,

597
00:16:42,090 --> 00:16:42,340
I don't know,

598
00:16:42,419 --> 00:16:42,989
6 months,

599
00:16:43,020 --> 00:16:43,640
and then,

600
00:16:44,059 --> 00:16:44,219
uh,

601
00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:45,500
Trust and safety over there,

602
00:16:45,619 --> 00:16:45,729
uh,

603
00:16:45,780 --> 00:16:46,059
were like,

604
00:16:46,179 --> 00:16:46,580
oh,

605
00:16:46,780 --> 00:16:47,820
we can't afford to staff this,

606
00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:48,909
so we shut it down.

607
00:16:50,700 --> 00:16:52,119
So uh that's cool.

608
00:16:52,340 --> 00:16:52,450
Uh,

609
00:16:52,460 --> 00:16:54,700
I think like Xbox has a forum and stuff like that,

610
00:16:54,820 --> 00:16:55,320
so like,

611
00:16:55,330 --> 00:16:56,289
I don't know how those work.

612
00:16:56,460 --> 00:16:56,940
The other one I,

613
00:16:56,979 --> 00:17:00,580
I love is like the question and answer system for Microsoft Windows products,

614
00:17:00,659 --> 00:17:01,340
so it's like,

615
00:17:02,270 --> 00:17:02,950
Question,

616
00:17:03,309 --> 00:17:06,339
my computer is blue screening and I can't use it and I need to use it

617
00:17:06,339 --> 00:17:08,630
for work and I've got data on it and I need to get it back,

618
00:17:08,790 --> 00:17:09,469
please help me.

619
00:17:09,589 --> 00:17:10,790
Here's all the information you could ever

620
00:17:10,790 --> 00:17:13,108
possibly need to diagnose my Windows problem.

621
00:17:14,229 --> 00:17:14,910
Answer.

622
00:17:15,430 --> 00:17:15,858
Hi,

623
00:17:15,989 --> 00:17:17,140
my name is blah blah blah.

624
00:17:17,189 --> 00:17:18,858
I'm from Microsoft support.

625
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,270
Thank you for making a question and answer thread.

626
00:17:22,479 --> 00:17:23,510
Before we get started,

627
00:17:23,670 --> 00:17:25,459
I'm gonna need some questions from you.

628
00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:27,329
What operating system are you running?

629
00:17:28,348 --> 00:17:29,329
Marketer's answer,

630
00:17:29,469 --> 00:17:29,750
solved,

631
00:17:29,869 --> 00:17:31,140
no answer for six years.

632
00:17:31,709 --> 00:17:31,930
Great,

633
00:17:32,030 --> 00:17:33,430
you didn't read anything they posted.

634
00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:34,069
So like,

635
00:17:34,099 --> 00:17:36,209
I don't think forums solve it.

636
00:17:43,699 --> 00:17:43,900
Yep,

637
00:17:44,219 --> 00:17:45,140
everyone like knows the memes,

638
00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:46,260
it's so frustrating.

639
00:17:46,540 --> 00:17:48,459
So like I I just look at like,

640
00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:51,780
look at forums that exist for similar products and

641
00:17:51,790 --> 00:17:54,170
and figure out like what you want from them.

642
00:17:54,660 --> 00:17:55,839
Because by all means like we can,

643
00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:56,969
we can try a forum,

644
00:17:56,979 --> 00:17:58,219
I'm not saying no.

645
00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:01,420
I'm just saying like it's a like it it's like it's just

646
00:18:01,420 --> 00:18:04,729
another place to check and it might turn into like a graveyard.

647
00:18:04,979 --> 00:18:06,760
Do also remember that we have a Reddit

648
00:18:07,140 --> 00:18:07,680
um

649
00:18:07,939 --> 00:18:09,819
that we we can like use more,

650
00:18:09,930 --> 00:18:11,500
it's mostly just freaks posting.

651
00:18:14,140 --> 00:18:15,310
Freak says an opinion of forums.

652
00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:16,510
Let's wait and see what Freak says.

653
00:18:17,829 --> 00:18:19,510
I'm gonna write like scroll around a little bit,

654
00:18:19,589 --> 00:18:20,989
look at other questions in the meantime,

655
00:18:21,109 --> 00:18:21,380
but I do,

656
00:18:21,469 --> 00:18:23,250
I do wanna like surface through stuff.

657
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,650
If they're here and they comment,

658
00:18:25,689 --> 00:18:25,880
it's,

659
00:18:25,890 --> 00:18:26,910
it's better cos you know,

660
00:18:27,329 --> 00:18:27,979
Fuchs is,

661
00:18:28,010 --> 00:18:28,359
is,

662
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,449
is El Capitan.

663
00:18:45,530 --> 00:18:45,680
Alright,

664
00:18:45,729 --> 00:18:47,050
I'll do a question whilst freaks tapes.

665
00:18:52,729 --> 00:18:52,989
Oh,

666
00:18:53,130 --> 00:18:53,250
that,

667
00:18:53,329 --> 00:18:54,010
that's a OK,

668
00:18:54,050 --> 00:18:56,489
we're gonna skip the Wiki performance one cos that's kind of like a,

669
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:56,520
a,

670
00:18:56,530 --> 00:18:57,130
a quick,

671
00:18:57,140 --> 00:18:57,430
a

672
00:18:57,569 --> 00:18:58,430
busy topic.

673
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,510
I'm also gonna skip uh the business question cos that's a big topic.

674
00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,180
I'm looking for like a nice nice like small que I have a small question here.

675
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,839
That's a big question as well from Kestrel.

676
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:12,469
I will get to them,

677
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,439
I'm just trying to let you know.

678
00:19:15,050 --> 00:19:15,209
Time,

679
00:19:15,329 --> 00:19:15,449
OK,

680
00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:15,770
we'll just,

681
00:19:15,810 --> 00:19:16,630
we'll just like,

682
00:19:17,010 --> 00:19:18,250
we'll do wiki performance then,

683
00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:19,030
um.

684
00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:25,520
Where are we?

685
00:19:25,829 --> 00:19:26,589
I am lost.

686
00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:29,530
Alright,

687
00:19:29,609 --> 00:19:30,650
so wiki performance.

688
00:19:30,930 --> 00:19:31,969
We had an issue,

689
00:19:32,089 --> 00:19:32,520
um,

690
00:19:32,689 --> 00:19:33,849
I think it was like over the weekend or at

691
00:19:33,849 --> 00:19:37,430
least last week where the wiki was responding really slowly,

692
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,109
and I had no idea why.

693
00:19:39,569 --> 00:19:42,430
The reason the wiki was running slowly is because

694
00:19:42,689 --> 00:19:43,290
Claude,

695
00:19:43,619 --> 00:19:44,069
Gemini,

696
00:19:44,369 --> 00:19:45,369
chat GPT,

697
00:19:46,170 --> 00:19:47,310
and you name it,

698
00:19:47,569 --> 00:19:49,949
be boo boop boop boo boo,

699
00:19:50,010 --> 00:19:52,290
like all the AI names were like hammering it,

700
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,349
and the reason they were hammering it is because.

701
00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:56,400
Their web crawlers

702
00:19:56,819 --> 00:20:00,880
aren't set up in a way to understand like dynamic pages.

703
00:20:01,339 --> 00:20:02,500
So all of those crawlers,

704
00:20:02,579 --> 00:20:03,609
all at the same time,

705
00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:07,650
they found the most expensive page on a media wiki instance,

706
00:20:07,819 --> 00:20:08,439
which is called

707
00:20:08,739 --> 00:20:10,160
Recent Changes Linked.

708
00:20:10,579 --> 00:20:11,260
And it like,

709
00:20:11,329 --> 00:20:13,020
it queries a lot of tables,

710
00:20:13,099 --> 00:20:16,359
it like spans like large portions of the database,

711
00:20:16,579 --> 00:20:18,500
it's a really slow page to run.

712
00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:20,469
But because it's called linked,

713
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,500
it means like it had other links on it,

714
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,880
which actually just led to more copies of special recent pages linked.

715
00:20:27,239 --> 00:20:28,300
So it was like

716
00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:30,359
DDoSing accidentally.

717
00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:33,369
Now there could be actually be attentional ways to do this,

718
00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:36,449
it is something that you can suffer from uh from an actual attacker.

719
00:20:36,739 --> 00:20:40,300
They just hit expensive pages on your media wiki instance until it goes down,

720
00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:40,859
right?

721
00:20:41,219 --> 00:20:41,670
Um,

722
00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:43,209
but when I was looking at the logs,

723
00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:44,280
it was like,

724
00:20:45,979 --> 00:20:46,979
60%

725
00:20:47,180 --> 00:20:49,000
AI bots I could identify,

726
00:20:49,449 --> 00:20:52,250
and 40% things that looked like AI bots,

727
00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:54,400
so uh I put in some restrictions there,

728
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:55,260
um,

729
00:20:55,540 --> 00:20:58,680
we philtre out a couple of pages from,

730
00:20:59,439 --> 00:21:00,400
I don't even remember,

731
00:21:00,479 --> 00:21:02,640
like I just installed some random thing that does it.

732
00:21:04,579 --> 00:21:05,599
I'm gonna go look at the,

733
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,170
the details.

734
00:21:06,250 --> 00:21:06,609
Oh my,

735
00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:07,810
my not like this,

736
00:21:07,969 --> 00:21:08,290
uh,

737
00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,630
Google search finally loaded.

738
00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:14,040
I think IPV6 is slow on my ISP so I might have to disable it.

739
00:21:14,130 --> 00:21:14,369
Like I'm,

740
00:21:14,449 --> 00:21:14,959
I'm like

741
00:21:15,410 --> 00:21:16,209
proud chesting,

742
00:21:16,290 --> 00:21:16,439
like,

743
00:21:16,449 --> 00:21:16,609
you know,

744
00:21:16,729 --> 00:21:17,369
00,

745
00:21:17,729 --> 00:21:18,400
I'm I'm like,

746
00:21:18,479 --> 00:21:18,920
you know,

747
00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:19,729
hey,

748
00:21:19,890 --> 00:21:20,420
uh,

749
00:21:20,569 --> 00:21:23,800
I've got IPP 6 working on my local machine at my apartment,

750
00:21:24,089 --> 00:21:24,900
but I think it's slow,

751
00:21:25,050 --> 00:21:25,770
so I might have to do that.

752
00:21:25,890 --> 00:21:26,089
But yeah,

753
00:21:26,130 --> 00:21:26,329
this,

754
00:21:26,449 --> 00:21:30,170
this sum summarise like trying to like exist and operate on the,

755
00:21:30,209 --> 00:21:31,209
on the internet right now.

756
00:21:37,829 --> 00:21:37,949
Oh,

757
00:21:37,989 --> 00:21:39,260
and if you wanna see like the,

758
00:21:39,349 --> 00:21:41,270
the like the end

759
00:21:41,670 --> 00:21:43,989
of like all this like internet legislation,

760
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:45,510
uh look at South Korea.

761
00:21:47,489 --> 00:21:49,119
South Korea's done the best that they can,

762
00:21:49,290 --> 00:21:49,589
but.

763
00:21:50,780 --> 00:21:53,680
You need like a a national ID to sign up for Facebook and stuff.

764
00:21:57,589 --> 00:21:57,859
Uh,

765
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,719
let me find the extension that I installed to,

766
00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:00,300
to fix,

767
00:22:00,839 --> 00:22:01,719
to fix the wiki,

768
00:22:01,729 --> 00:22:02,219
cos

769
00:22:02,479 --> 00:22:03,660
I wanna talk about it a bit more.

770
00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:13,989
Yes,

771
00:22:14,069 --> 00:22:17,390
we added uh an extension called uh crawler protection,

772
00:22:17,469 --> 00:22:18,489
that's literally what it's called,

773
00:22:18,910 --> 00:22:19,489
um.

774
00:22:22,290 --> 00:22:23,130
I wanna see what it does,

775
00:22:23,170 --> 00:22:24,270
cos I don't remember what it does.

776
00:22:29,069 --> 00:22:31,619
Denies anonymous users access to certain media wiki,

777
00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:34,030
action URLs and special pages which are resource intensive,

778
00:22:34,089 --> 00:22:34,270
yep,

779
00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:34,699
there you go,

780
00:22:34,790 --> 00:22:35,859
that's exactly what we needed.

781
00:22:36,349 --> 00:22:36,500
Uh,

782
00:22:36,550 --> 00:22:37,729
I also have disabled,

783
00:22:37,949 --> 00:22:38,560
um,

784
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:40,170
one of the special pages recently.

785
00:22:40,229 --> 00:22:40,439
Um,

786
00:22:40,479 --> 00:22:41,910
the reason was I wanted to do like a,

787
00:22:41,949 --> 00:22:42,069
a,

788
00:22:42,189 --> 00:22:43,349
a two-pronged attack on it.

789
00:22:51,979 --> 00:22:53,579
I might re-enable the special page,

790
00:22:53,619 --> 00:22:54,099
but like I,

791
00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:55,689
I didn't even know that special page existed,

792
00:22:55,819 --> 00:22:56,400
so like.

793
00:23:00,150 --> 00:23:00,170
You know,

794
00:23:16,270 --> 00:23:17,510
But we've fixed it for now,

795
00:23:17,550 --> 00:23:18,189
and I need to,

796
00:23:18,270 --> 00:23:20,310
I need to get the cloud flare stuff sorted,

797
00:23:20,709 --> 00:23:21,390
but like.

798
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,439
Um,

799
00:23:26,329 --> 00:23:27,089
Give me 1 2nd here,

800
00:23:27,130 --> 00:23:28,209
I'm gonna to take something or something.

801
00:23:47,849 --> 00:23:48,930
Uh.

802
00:23:52,650 --> 00:23:53,750
I don't remember what I was talking about.

803
00:23:53,959 --> 00:23:54,209
Oh yeah,

804
00:23:54,290 --> 00:23:54,439
the,

805
00:23:54,489 --> 00:23:55,329
the crawler protection.

806
00:23:56,579 --> 00:23:57,030
And then I wanted,

807
00:23:57,109 --> 00:23:58,829
I want to get the cloudfare setup sorted,

808
00:23:58,939 --> 00:24:01,290
but the cloudfare extension I chose

809
00:24:01,390 --> 00:24:03,650
isn't compatible with the latest version of MediaWiki,

810
00:24:04,069 --> 00:24:04,530
but

811
00:24:04,670 --> 00:24:05,310
um.

812
00:24:06,170 --> 00:24:09,130
I got notified about another one called like Multi Purge or something,

813
00:24:09,209 --> 00:24:10,390
so I've got to set that up,

814
00:24:10,890 --> 00:24:11,579
at which point the,

815
00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:13,209
the wiki will be behind

816
00:24:13,489 --> 00:24:14,910
will be behind cloudflare.

817
00:24:15,329 --> 00:24:15,530
Uh,

818
00:24:15,609 --> 00:24:15,959
we'll go,

819
00:24:16,130 --> 00:24:16,869
uh,

820
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,130
sorry,

821
00:24:17,239 --> 00:24:19,640
we'll experiment with like disabling the,

822
00:24:19,699 --> 00:24:20,339
the cache

823
00:24:20,530 --> 00:24:21,770
for users who are signed in.

824
00:24:21,849 --> 00:24:23,369
I can do that with a cloud flare rule.

825
00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:24,739
Um,

826
00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:25,400
but

827
00:24:26,099 --> 00:24:28,540
it will always cache like JavaScript,

828
00:24:28,699 --> 00:24:29,180
CSS,

829
00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:29,890
stuff like that,

830
00:24:30,060 --> 00:24:30,180
uh,

831
00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:31,900
which should mean that the wiki loads like a,

832
00:24:31,939 --> 00:24:32,250
a lot,

833
00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:32,939
lot faster.

834
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,260
So that is performance of the wiki

835
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:53,520
taken care of,

836
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:54,920
let's go down to.

837
00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:58,839
OK,

838
00:24:58,959 --> 00:24:59,329
so

839
00:24:59,969 --> 00:25:02,469
Adiq says Broddock has finished implementing events with different languages.

840
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,300
When we can expect an update to the event list in Resonant Essentials.

841
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,040
Uh,

842
00:25:06,719 --> 00:25:07,119
there's a,

843
00:25:07,199 --> 00:25:08,979
a gap of communication there.

844
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,349
Um,

845
00:25:09,439 --> 00:25:11,199
I hadn't been notified that it was fixed.

846
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:11,430
Uh,

847
00:25:11,479 --> 00:25:12,420
I hadn't checked,

848
00:25:12,530 --> 00:25:12,880
uh,

849
00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:13,400
but,

850
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:13,989
uh,

851
00:25:14,109 --> 00:25:15,319
so I need to do that first.

852
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,900
I need to get our copy of it up to,

853
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,439
um.

854
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:20,170
Up to date.

855
00:25:20,430 --> 00:25:21,430
It is fairly up to date.

856
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:21,989
I've just,

857
00:25:22,030 --> 00:25:22,339
uh,

858
00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:25,359
I had to make the updates like manual for the moment,

859
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:26,000
um,

860
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:27,829
because there were some issues I was,

861
00:25:27,910 --> 00:25:31,390
I was looking at that needed to make it manual updates rather than automatic.

862
00:25:31,790 --> 00:25:33,810
So I need to update it to the latest,

863
00:25:33,949 --> 00:25:34,280
uh,

864
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:37,859
and then we need to schedule some work with most likely Rauvi to,

865
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,650
to get the

866
00:25:38,869 --> 00:25:41,569
event list and resonant essentials updated with a language philtre.

867
00:25:47,329 --> 00:25:48,880
Moving forward to Revi,

868
00:25:48,969 --> 00:25:49,369
who says,

869
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:50,150
as a business,

870
00:25:50,209 --> 00:25:51,719
what are your plans in terms of growth?

871
00:25:52,089 --> 00:25:55,489
Talking like if you're leaning more towards staying private or going public.

872
00:25:56,010 --> 00:25:56,130
Uh,

873
00:25:56,209 --> 00:25:57,150
so there's actually like

874
00:25:57,689 --> 00:25:59,390
two-ish questions there.

875
00:25:59,650 --> 00:26:00,119
Um,

876
00:26:00,219 --> 00:26:01,270
the second question

877
00:26:01,810 --> 00:26:04,670
that involves private or public is we will

878
00:26:05,290 --> 00:26:07,069
most likely always be a private,

879
00:26:07,089 --> 00:26:07,569
uh,

880
00:26:07,609 --> 00:26:08,750
privately traded company.

881
00:26:09,170 --> 00:26:09,400
Uh,

882
00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:10,869
going public would mean,

883
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,239
uh,

884
00:26:11,290 --> 00:26:12,010
for those who are not aware,

885
00:26:12,050 --> 00:26:14,369
it would mean that we would be listed on stock exchanges and

886
00:26:14,369 --> 00:26:16,449
you would be able to buy and sell stock in us.

887
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,680
Uh,

888
00:26:17,959 --> 00:26:20,150
that is usually like a really large process,

889
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,550
and for a company of our size,

890
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,339
it wouldn't make sense financially,

891
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:23,800
uh,

892
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,040
let alone like

893
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,239
management or like legally,

894
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,660
etc.

895
00:26:27,790 --> 00:26:28,349
stuff like that.

896
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:28,880
Uh,

897
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,640
if you go public,

898
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,280
you need a lawyer,

899
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,709
right?

900
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,270
Like on,

901
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:32,219
on stuff,

902
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,150
like not,

903
00:26:33,380 --> 00:26:34,119
not contracted,

904
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,280
you need one like hired.

905
00:26:37,959 --> 00:26:39,069
As for the first half,

906
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,859
what are the terms of growth,

907
00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:41,150
um,

908
00:26:41,439 --> 00:26:41,839
so,

909
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,859
We're trying to like

910
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:47,349
balance our growth in B2C and B2B.

911
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,800
We talk a lot about the B2C growth,

912
00:26:50,199 --> 00:26:51,550
which is things like adverts,

913
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:52,040
for example,

914
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:52,250
uh,

915
00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:53,160
if you look in Devlog,

916
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:53,579
uh,

917
00:26:53,589 --> 00:26:56,020
Chroma has launched a Google Ads campaign.

918
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:58,430
I just checked it and it's still not launched launch,

919
00:26:58,550 --> 00:26:58,760
but I,

920
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,160
I found some information that says that it can take up to

921
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,640
3 days for the ad campaign data to start coming in,

922
00:27:03,719 --> 00:27:04,099
so,

923
00:27:04,479 --> 00:27:04,670
uh,

924
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,920
we'll be able to check maybe tomorrow or the day after,

925
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:07,239
um,

926
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,239
see how that's doing.

927
00:27:10,209 --> 00:27:10,619
Uh,

928
00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:11,609
we also want to get more,

929
00:27:11,689 --> 00:27:13,369
just like more like video and,

930
00:27:13,459 --> 00:27:14,040
and.

931
00:27:15,329 --> 00:27:16,329
Promotional content out there,

932
00:27:16,410 --> 00:27:17,689
I'm aware of 2.

933
00:27:19,109 --> 00:27:20,859
I'm aware of 2 or 3 projects that we're,

934
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:22,609
we're doing there to sort of get things done.

935
00:27:23,189 --> 00:27:23,339
Uh,

936
00:27:23,390 --> 00:27:25,770
we've got like a Steam store page update going,

937
00:27:26,069 --> 00:27:26,349
uh,

938
00:27:26,469 --> 00:27:27,140
maybe a new trailer,

939
00:27:27,189 --> 00:27:27,469
I don't know,

940
00:27:27,550 --> 00:27:27,729
lots,

941
00:27:27,790 --> 00:27:29,270
lots of different stuff going on there.

942
00:27:29,859 --> 00:27:31,140
In terms of business,

943
00:27:31,390 --> 00:27:32,890
we're still at the point where,

944
00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:33,609
uh,

945
00:27:33,670 --> 00:27:34,650
we have to sort of

946
00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:36,130
lying's the wrong word,

947
00:27:36,250 --> 00:27:37,530
but it's more like we have to say like,

948
00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:37,989
oh yeah,

949
00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:39,250
absolutely we can do that,

950
00:27:39,550 --> 00:27:41,609
but you'll have to pay for it and it might take a few months.

951
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:42,189
Uh,

952
00:27:42,430 --> 00:27:42,709
it's,

953
00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:43,260
so it's like,

954
00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:43,430
you know,

955
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:43,660
we're,

956
00:27:43,709 --> 00:27:44,569
we're getting a lot of

957
00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:47,810
feature requests for items in the business realm that we don't have.

958
00:27:48,189 --> 00:27:49,449
If you remember the Tech Tree,

959
00:27:49,550 --> 00:27:50,010
um,

960
00:27:50,150 --> 00:27:52,609
the Tech Tree had a bunch of stuff that like March,

961
00:27:52,750 --> 00:27:53,359
um,

962
00:27:53,459 --> 00:27:54,469
list on the Tech Tree,

963
00:27:54,510 --> 00:27:55,300
it might still be there on the,

964
00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:56,189
on the wiki page.

965
00:27:56,670 --> 00:27:56,949
Uh,

966
00:27:57,030 --> 00:27:59,969
is like lots of business stuff that will lead to like a complete

967
00:28:00,430 --> 00:28:00,810
product.

968
00:28:01,739 --> 00:28:02,050
Uh,

969
00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:02,979
that we're able to sell,

970
00:28:03,140 --> 00:28:04,540
but we're still like experiencing,

971
00:28:04,739 --> 00:28:04,900
you know,

972
00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:07,040
various business issues with stuff like that.

973
00:28:07,459 --> 00:28:07,819
Uh,

974
00:28:07,859 --> 00:28:08,640
once we support

975
00:28:08,890 --> 00:28:09,770
the LMSA,

976
00:28:09,959 --> 00:28:11,359
we'll have business for days.

977
00:28:12,609 --> 00:28:12,859
Uh,

978
00:28:12,930 --> 00:28:13,209
additionally,

979
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:14,160
once we get,

980
00:28:14,569 --> 00:28:14,819
uh,

981
00:28:14,849 --> 00:28:16,010
clarity over,

982
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:16,349
uh,

983
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,189
universes sorted,

984
00:28:17,290 --> 00:28:17,540
we'll,

985
00:28:17,550 --> 00:28:18,900
we'll also get a business for days.

986
00:28:18,969 --> 00:28:20,839
We've still got apparently some confusion around the

987
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:22,369
different types of universes that are there.

988
00:28:22,609 --> 00:28:25,369
And seeing as universes is sort of like accidentally my,

989
00:28:25,489 --> 00:28:25,800
my,

990
00:28:25,930 --> 00:28:26,489
my product,

991
00:28:26,650 --> 00:28:26,800
right?

992
00:28:26,849 --> 00:28:27,489
It's like a,

993
00:28:27,689 --> 00:28:29,550
a feature that like we've had for a long time,

994
00:28:29,650 --> 00:28:32,050
but like I've added functionality to it over the time,

995
00:28:32,170 --> 00:28:32,599
so like I'm,

996
00:28:32,650 --> 00:28:34,189
I'm the expert in universes.

997
00:28:34,609 --> 00:28:35,449
So I've gotta update the,

998
00:28:35,489 --> 00:28:36,650
the universe document there.

999
00:28:37,219 --> 00:28:37,420
Uh,

1000
00:28:37,489 --> 00:28:38,199
we do have,

1001
00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:38,729
um,

1002
00:28:38,859 --> 00:28:40,079
our crazy,

1003
00:28:40,140 --> 00:28:41,560
and I call him crazy in a good way,

1004
00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:42,380
our crazy,

1005
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:42,689
uh,

1006
00:28:42,699 --> 00:28:43,079
like

1007
00:28:43,619 --> 00:28:45,650
finance stroke business guy,

1008
00:28:45,819 --> 00:28:46,060
uh,

1009
00:28:46,219 --> 00:28:46,500
Bob,

1010
00:28:46,619 --> 00:28:47,420
who is like

1011
00:28:47,619 --> 00:28:48,660
flying around the planet,

1012
00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:50,180
like literally flying around the planet,

1013
00:28:50,260 --> 00:28:51,839
like they do several trips

1014
00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:54,040
to several like countries,

1015
00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:54,680
um,

1016
00:28:54,810 --> 00:28:56,250
each year it seems like to,

1017
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:58,489
to talk to our business partners and get more stuff and,

1018
00:28:58,540 --> 00:28:58,729
and,

1019
00:28:58,780 --> 00:28:59,280
and,

1020
00:28:59,739 --> 00:29:00,359
uh,

1021
00:29:01,050 --> 00:29:01,180
network,

1022
00:29:01,219 --> 00:29:01,780
etc.

1023
00:29:05,540 --> 00:29:06,449
We also for business,

1024
00:29:06,489 --> 00:29:07,400
we wanna do case studies,

1025
00:29:07,449 --> 00:29:08,550
I believe we have like a couple

1026
00:29:08,849 --> 00:29:09,510
on the website,

1027
00:29:09,530 --> 00:29:09,920
but we,

1028
00:29:09,969 --> 00:29:11,329
we need to get a few more on there.

1029
00:29:16,060 --> 00:29:18,750
Let's move forwards to.

1030
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,209
Whatever's next.

1031
00:29:50,339 --> 00:29:50,729
Uh,

1032
00:29:50,859 --> 00:29:53,719
Josh talked a little bit about zero knowledge proofs for,

1033
00:29:53,729 --> 00:29:54,900
for age verification.

1034
00:29:55,099 --> 00:29:57,020
I have been tracking a couple of like,

1035
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:57,530
uh,

1036
00:29:57,540 --> 00:29:58,670
technologies that did that.

1037
00:29:58,780 --> 00:30:01,680
There was a GitHub repository I got linked like the other week,

1038
00:30:01,689 --> 00:30:04,369
which was doing some sort of cryptography with zero knowledge proofs.

1039
00:30:04,729 --> 00:30:06,479
The problem with the zero knowledge proofs though,

1040
00:30:06,550 --> 00:30:07,040
um,

1041
00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:07,680
is that.

1042
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,160
They require like as as Joss says,

1043
00:30:10,199 --> 00:30:11,839
they require like government assistance,

1044
00:30:11,979 --> 00:30:13,180
so it would be like.

1045
00:30:14,469 --> 00:30:15,349
For a layman term,

1046
00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:16,599
it would be something like

1047
00:30:17,199 --> 00:30:22,420
you use your government ID with like an application or like uh a.

1048
00:30:24,569 --> 00:30:25,329
A box,

1049
00:30:25,569 --> 00:30:27,430
it might even be like a box in a room somewhere,

1050
00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:28,140
um,

1051
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,689
and it creates like a,

1052
00:30:29,729 --> 00:30:30,160
a

1053
00:30:30,410 --> 00:30:31,670
cryptographic thing

1054
00:30:32,209 --> 00:30:33,189
that says like,

1055
00:30:33,569 --> 00:30:34,989
this user is

1056
00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:36,430
over the age of 18,

1057
00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:38,530
and it's like signed and

1058
00:30:38,729 --> 00:30:41,650
all these cryptography words I don't know cos I'm I'm on the spot here.

1059
00:30:41,959 --> 00:30:42,939
And then you present

1060
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,280
not your ID,

1061
00:30:44,469 --> 00:30:46,880
you present the zero knowledge proof to the,

1062
00:30:46,959 --> 00:30:47,599
the company,

1063
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:48,910
and the company says like,

1064
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,160
I will validate this against like the,

1065
00:30:51,239 --> 00:30:52,479
the government's like,

1066
00:30:52,579 --> 00:30:53,119
I don't know,

1067
00:30:53,479 --> 00:30:54,619
keys or something,

1068
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,310
uh,

1069
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:55,989
and

1070
00:30:56,719 --> 00:31:00,140
based on that we can ascertain that you are over the age of 18

1071
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,880
and we don't actually need to see your ID or get your name.

1072
00:31:04,569 --> 00:31:05,839
If none of that made sense,

1073
00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:06,449
good,

1074
00:31:06,530 --> 00:31:08,130
it didn't make sense to me either when I

1075
00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:09,810
was reading the source code of the repository,

1076
00:31:09,849 --> 00:31:10,920
which I've forgotten the name of.

1077
00:31:11,170 --> 00:31:11,959
It was a company,

1078
00:31:12,089 --> 00:31:13,599
like some sort of big company were like,

1079
00:31:13,650 --> 00:31:13,839
hey,

1080
00:31:13,890 --> 00:31:16,229
we've got this zero knowledge proof age verification thing,

1081
00:31:16,689 --> 00:31:17,250
and I'm like,

1082
00:31:17,569 --> 00:31:18,300
yeah,

1083
00:31:18,729 --> 00:31:19,510
I get it,

1084
00:31:19,770 --> 00:31:20,650
but I don't.

1085
00:31:20,969 --> 00:31:22,890
So I closed the tab and I've forgotten what it was.

1086
00:31:46,969 --> 00:31:47,400
Next up,

1087
00:31:47,410 --> 00:31:48,959
we've got a question from Kestrel,

1088
00:31:49,089 --> 00:31:49,390
uh,

1089
00:31:49,410 --> 00:31:52,050
which also has a response from Freaks that I largely agree with,

1090
00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:53,839
so I'm gonna read it out and then read Freaks's

1091
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:55,550
response and then probably add a bunch of prime,

1092
00:31:56,089 --> 00:31:56,510
um.

1093
00:31:58,599 --> 00:31:59,670
Prime sprinkles at the end.

1094
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,040
So Kestre says it's a question regarding development policies,

1095
00:32:04,099 --> 00:32:05,670
what's the barrier metric for the team deciding to

1096
00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:08,280
implement small scale uh fixes for significant bugs.

1097
00:32:08,349 --> 00:32:08,589
For example,

1098
00:32:08,719 --> 00:32:10,060
testing is being done right now

1099
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,439
regarding the VR rendering blur issue that gets

1100
00:32:12,439 --> 00:32:14,390
reported and brought up frequently by new users,

1101
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,719
with it being a massive issue for some more than others.

1102
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,180
In testing,

1103
00:32:17,199 --> 00:32:18,040
it seems like the fix is changing.

1104
00:32:18,209 --> 00:32:21,479
Changing 9 characters on a single line in post pressing stack,

1105
00:32:21,489 --> 00:32:22,670
and the blur issue is fixed.

1106
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,520
There's another similar issue with Xixyoon and multiply blend mode breaking with

1107
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,319
point lights in potential seizure inducing

1108
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:31,160
ways that's another 7 character change.

1109
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,300
What would the community have to do to get such patches implemented?

1110
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,150
So then Frugs's response to this,

1111
00:32:36,199 --> 00:32:37,520
which I largely agree with,

1112
00:32:37,609 --> 00:32:39,000
but I'll add some prime sprinkles,

1113
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:39,500
is,

1114
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:40,400
um,

1115
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:40,880
first of all,

1116
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,619
you want to make sure that there's a GitHub issue

1117
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,280
and get people to upvote it.

1118
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:45,689
The,

1119
00:32:45,699 --> 00:32:46,209
um

1120
00:32:47,270 --> 00:32:49,500
The second part of that is describing what the actual issue is,

1121
00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:50,439
not the fix itself.

1122
00:32:50,780 --> 00:32:51,329
Whenever I see,

1123
00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:52,229
and this isn't your fault,

1124
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:52,819
Kestrel,

1125
00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:53,719
but like,

1126
00:32:54,260 --> 00:32:55,209
whenever I see things like,

1127
00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:56,489
it's just 7 lines,

1128
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:57,680
it is not.

1129
00:32:57,979 --> 00:33:00,160
I have categorically proven that

1130
00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:01,579
with the um.

1131
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:05,089
Tool pop-off headless grab bug,

1132
00:33:05,660 --> 00:33:05,930
uh,

1133
00:33:05,939 --> 00:33:07,270
if someone knows what I'm referring to,

1134
00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:07,510
go,

1135
00:33:07,670 --> 00:33:08,349
go grab the link,

1136
00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:09,300
but that was a like,

1137
00:33:09,630 --> 00:33:10,859
simple bug and everyone was like,

1138
00:33:11,030 --> 00:33:13,349
you just change this like one line and it'll fix it,

1139
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:15,750
and like the actual problem is like,

1140
00:33:16,510 --> 00:33:17,170
several

1141
00:33:17,390 --> 00:33:19,010
different layers deep,

1142
00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:20,180
and I actually ended up,

1143
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:21,689
fixing three bugs,

1144
00:33:21,869 --> 00:33:23,869
just trying to fix that like one bug.

1145
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,520
So that's why we,

1146
00:33:25,579 --> 00:33:26,829
we have to be like,

1147
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:27,040
guys,

1148
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:27,790
you have to,

1149
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:29,130
you have to start with the problem,

1150
00:33:29,239 --> 00:33:29,849
not the solutions.

1151
00:33:29,989 --> 00:33:30,800
Whenever I see like,

1152
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,069
hey,

1153
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:32,739
it's just 7 character change.

1154
00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:34,329
It might be,

1155
00:33:34,589 --> 00:33:35,390
but you might have

1156
00:33:35,689 --> 00:33:36,709
overlooked something else,

1157
00:33:36,829 --> 00:33:39,130
so don't like hyperfocus on that change.

1158
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:43,260
There's this additional context field in all of our like GitHub issue forms,

1159
00:33:43,270 --> 00:33:44,709
it says like additional context.

1160
00:33:45,109 --> 00:33:46,750
That is the place where you say like,

1161
00:33:46,819 --> 00:33:47,310
yo,

1162
00:33:47,469 --> 00:33:48,310
I um you know,

1163
00:33:48,459 --> 00:33:49,619
decompiled blah blah blah,

1164
00:33:49,630 --> 00:33:50,270
and I found this,

1165
00:33:50,349 --> 00:33:52,579
I think this is the area that we need to look into.

1166
00:33:52,869 --> 00:33:54,209
It might even be this area,

1167
00:33:54,219 --> 00:33:55,229
and you do it from the sort of like,

1168
00:33:55,349 --> 00:33:55,650
hey,

1169
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:56,530
this might

1170
00:33:56,829 --> 00:33:57,250
be.

1171
00:33:58,410 --> 00:33:59,589
This might be the area to look at,

1172
00:33:59,619 --> 00:34:01,180
and because it's an additional context,

1173
00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:01,660
it's fine,

1174
00:34:01,739 --> 00:34:01,869
right?

1175
00:34:01,939 --> 00:34:03,280
Additional context is like

1176
00:34:03,579 --> 00:34:05,560
additional stuff we might need that might be helpful.

1177
00:34:06,569 --> 00:34:08,918
But it can't be a part of the main body of the issue,

1178
00:34:09,010 --> 00:34:10,929
cos if it's the part of the main body of the issue,

1179
00:34:11,168 --> 00:34:12,000
then it's like,

1180
00:34:12,449 --> 00:34:13,080
here's the fix,

1181
00:34:13,168 --> 00:34:13,899
just do it.

1182
00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:14,438
It would,

1183
00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:16,129
it never actually is the fix.

1184
00:34:32,590 --> 00:34:32,750
Uh,

1185
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:33,870
that's exactly what Fruke says as well,

1186
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:34,668
in additional context,

1187
00:34:34,830 --> 00:34:35,668
provide a suggested fix.

1188
00:34:35,739 --> 00:34:36,168
It's like

1189
00:34:36,429 --> 00:34:36,629
it.

1190
00:34:37,620 --> 00:34:38,639
It's almost like

1191
00:34:41,969 --> 00:34:43,409
It's almost like if there's a work order,

1192
00:34:43,489 --> 00:34:46,260
like say there's a work order to like repair a car or something like that,

1193
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:48,129
like the work order would be like

1194
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,330
repair the car.

1195
00:34:50,330 --> 00:34:51,418
Make it stop making noise,

1196
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,958
and then like right at the bottom of the work order might

1197
00:34:53,958 --> 00:34:56,418
be like customer notes and the customer note would be like.

1198
00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:58,419
Might be a squirrel in the engine,

1199
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,600
and then you open up the engine and there might be a squirrel there,

1200
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,000
but there might not be a squirrel there,

1201
00:35:02,370 --> 00:35:03,159
but you're aware of it.

1202
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,080
That was a really bad example.

1203
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:08,679
Moving on.

1204
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:10,360
Uh,

1205
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:11,719
Yeah,

1206
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,989
additional testing is also good,

1207
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:13,409
right,

1208
00:35:13,479 --> 00:35:13,830
um,

1209
00:35:13,919 --> 00:35:15,899
if you're not getting traction on an issue,

1210
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,919
there's usually like something that we need that

1211
00:35:18,919 --> 00:35:21,439
you can find either in the original issue template

1212
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,229
or in some of the like subsidiary documents like the

1213
00:35:24,229 --> 00:35:26,459
Read me or how we prioritise that might help out

1214
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,699
that is beyond just saying like hey it's 7 characters.

1215
00:35:30,469 --> 00:35:30,669
Like,

1216
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:32,280
has it been tested on.

1217
00:35:33,179 --> 00:35:33,500
Linux,

1218
00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:33,899
for example,

1219
00:35:33,939 --> 00:35:35,379
or has it only been tested on Windows?

1220
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:38,179
Because if it's only been tested on Windows and we do the

1221
00:35:38,179 --> 00:35:41,020
seven line fix that your 7 character fix that you're talking about,

1222
00:35:41,219 --> 00:35:42,540
maybe that actually breaks it

1223
00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:43,379
on Linux.

1224
00:35:43,699 --> 00:35:44,620
Even the information,

1225
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:45,010
hey,

1226
00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:46,969
this issue doesn't occur on Linux is,

1227
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:48,020
is good information.

1228
00:35:59,479 --> 00:36:00,699
Moving forward to Yosh's question.

1229
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,199
Oh,

1230
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,760
actually that thing about the plug-in used to stop the hoard prevents

1231
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,760
all unauthorised users from looking at the edit history of individual pages.

1232
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,800
I do not think this is the best.

1233
00:36:07,879 --> 00:36:08,989
I do agree.

1234
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,070
Please raise an issue,

1235
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:11,679
I'll try and resolve it this week.

1236
00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:17,909
I can tweak the disabling of the various pages cos I think

1237
00:36:18,209 --> 00:36:20,149
regular recent changes should be OK,

1238
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:21,229
um,

1239
00:36:21,669 --> 00:36:21,919
like that,

1240
00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:22,889
that should be OK.

1241
00:36:40,939 --> 00:36:41,739
Kestrel should,

1242
00:36:41,929 --> 00:36:42,199
uh,

1243
00:36:42,219 --> 00:36:42,729
Kestrel says,

1244
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:44,120
what should I get to eat?

1245
00:36:44,260 --> 00:36:44,629
Um,

1246
00:36:44,899 --> 00:36:45,879
the answer there is food,

1247
00:36:46,139 --> 00:36:47,500
ideally cheese related.

1248
00:36:48,439 --> 00:36:49,110
Um

1249
00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:50,659
Oh

1250
00:36:51,919 --> 00:36:53,149
Let's move forwards,

1251
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:54,070
uh.

1252
00:36:57,350 --> 00:36:58,429
Bredo has linked the issue,

1253
00:36:58,510 --> 00:36:59,540
it is absolutely the issue,

1254
00:36:59,610 --> 00:37:01,659
it is issue 479.

1255
00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:03,429
479.

1256
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,689
Um,

1257
00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:08,199
Again I don't wanna

1258
00:37:08,739 --> 00:37:10,419
call out anyone so I won't mention names here,

1259
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:10,679
but,

1260
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:13,000
but someone posted like this is the fix,

1261
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:17,399
and then people thumbsed it up with 13 responses and and 3 hearts,

1262
00:37:17,979 --> 00:37:18,580
um.

1263
00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:21,780
And then I say the additional information is preiterated.

1264
00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:22,250
However,

1265
00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:24,770
do keep in mind that pointing exactly in the code to where the issue

1266
00:37:25,469 --> 00:37:27,510
appears to be can be distracting for our team.

1267
00:37:27,669 --> 00:37:30,750
I now need to evaluate your solution as well as researching the bug myself.

1268
00:37:30,860 --> 00:37:31,139
For example,

1269
00:37:31,229 --> 00:37:32,389
your solution might not be applicable,

1270
00:37:33,229 --> 00:37:33,989
idiomatic,

1271
00:37:34,229 --> 00:37:34,489
performant,

1272
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:34,949
etc.

1273
00:37:35,060 --> 00:37:36,100
and it may take additional work,

1274
00:37:36,179 --> 00:37:36,850
but I'll take a look.

1275
00:37:41,770 --> 00:37:42,530
And then later on,

1276
00:37:42,729 --> 00:37:45,669
I'm narrowing this down here to be potentially 3 bugs,

1277
00:37:45,919 --> 00:37:48,129
permission checks running on tools that they shouldn't be running on.

1278
00:37:48,209 --> 00:37:50,530
That was um permission checks would run on.

1279
00:37:51,580 --> 00:37:52,590
Like equipped tools,

1280
00:37:52,780 --> 00:37:53,620
they didn't need to be ran.

1281
00:37:54,429 --> 00:37:55,320
Um,

1282
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,320
next was tools that are already equipped,

1283
00:37:57,479 --> 00:37:58,270
trying to be equipped,

1284
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,540
yep,

1285
00:37:58,679 --> 00:37:59,270
that was,

1286
00:37:59,280 --> 00:37:59,860
um,

1287
00:38:01,709 --> 00:38:02,860
Related to the permission check,

1288
00:38:02,939 --> 00:38:03,110
right,

1289
00:38:03,229 --> 00:38:03,870
so it was,

1290
00:38:04,270 --> 00:38:05,909
there's a tool that's already equipped,

1291
00:38:06,110 --> 00:38:08,229
and because you grab someone that has that

1292
00:38:08,229 --> 00:38:10,500
already equipped tool and you aren't a builder,

1293
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:12,629
it was trying to equip that tool,

1294
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:14,629
and then cos it was trying to equip that tool,

1295
00:38:14,709 --> 00:38:16,510
it was trying to run the permissions for that tool.

1296
00:38:23,820 --> 00:38:23,979
Yeah,

1297
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,879
possible to equip an already equipped tools.

1298
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:29,000
As the permission cleanup routine for the interaction handler,

1299
00:38:29,060 --> 00:38:29,719
uh,

1300
00:38:29,979 --> 00:38:30,600
permissions

1301
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:32,770
can run on the host and the user has the tool,

1302
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:34,860
for headlesses who do not have a head,

1303
00:38:35,340 --> 00:38:39,159
the local user head position is null because headless users do not have a head.

1304
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:01,560
Uh,

1305
00:39:02,169 --> 00:39:04,850
Compuser talks about how deleting the VTF file that

1306
00:39:04,850 --> 00:39:07,379
contains a cow makes TF2 refuse to be there,

1307
00:39:07,459 --> 00:39:09,939
that one's more understandable when you understand sort of like,

1308
00:39:09,949 --> 00:39:10,379
um.

1309
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Like hashing and

1310
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:15,750
checksums and like you know manifests and stuff like that,

1311
00:39:16,030 --> 00:39:18,199
basically TF2 loaded up and like that

1312
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,459
particular asset was was was missing from the manifest or whatever,

1313
00:39:22,959 --> 00:39:24,389
uh and then it like crashes.

1314
00:39:24,479 --> 00:39:25,659
It should be like more

1315
00:39:25,959 --> 00:39:26,959
uh graceful than that,

1316
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,300
like pop in a message or something that says like

1317
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,239
hey your files are invalid,

1318
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,719
please reacquire them or whatever.

1319
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,149
Moving forward to uh Canine Dragon.

1320
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,800
As someone who's recently got into content creation for VRC using Unity,

1321
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,280
the content creation and especially the avatar

1322
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,800
creation in Resonant has shocked me,

1323
00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:44,520
and I'm having trouble adjusting to the way it's done in Resonite.

1324
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,590
I heard something called Rezoink is in the works

1325
00:39:46,590 --> 00:39:48,399
that would allow people to create content in Unity

1326
00:39:48,629 --> 00:39:49,820
and then get it into

1327
00:39:49,959 --> 00:39:50,560
Resonate.

1328
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,280
Uh,

1329
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:51,439
yeah,

1330
00:39:51,550 --> 00:39:53,770
that's Resonite Link plus the Unity SDK.

1331
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:55,120
Unity SDK is,

1332
00:39:55,129 --> 00:39:57,340
is being made right now by Fruxs.

1333
00:39:57,399 --> 00:39:57,679
Um,

1334
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,449
you can see,

1335
00:39:58,750 --> 00:39:59,070
uh,

1336
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,719
some videos and stuff in Devlog,

1337
00:40:00,959 --> 00:40:02,879
but Resonant Link itself exists.

1338
00:40:05,310 --> 00:40:06,989
So you can take a look at at both there.

1339
00:40:18,350 --> 00:40:20,909
There are actually a bunch of user uh of bugs

1340
00:40:20,909 --> 00:40:23,250
that are related to headless users not having heads.

1341
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:24,050
Um,

1342
00:40:24,110 --> 00:40:26,129
I can't remember if it's Breda or Sven,

1343
00:40:26,429 --> 00:40:27,729
but they are,

1344
00:40:27,830 --> 00:40:29,050
both of them probably

1345
00:40:29,229 --> 00:40:30,510
have a directive from me,

1346
00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:31,820
which is if I ever like

1347
00:40:32,179 --> 00:40:33,469
grumble about them to a bug,

1348
00:40:33,590 --> 00:40:33,820
I'm like,

1349
00:40:33,830 --> 00:40:34,020
oh,

1350
00:40:34,030 --> 00:40:35,310
I can't figure out this bug,

1351
00:40:35,590 --> 00:40:36,590
they have to ask,

1352
00:40:36,750 --> 00:40:38,989
is it because headless users don't have heads?

1353
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:42,399
Just to like remind me.

1354
00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:45,020
Cause we've,

1355
00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:45,909
we've had a couple

1356
00:40:49,090 --> 00:40:50,330
I think there was one in Cursorland,

1357
00:40:50,409 --> 00:40:50,959
but I don't,

1358
00:40:51,169 --> 00:40:52,709
I don't remember like what it is.

1359
00:40:55,330 --> 00:40:57,449
We also had one that um.

1360
00:41:01,810 --> 00:41:04,120
It's something to do with headless users not having hands.

1361
00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:06,000
So I like it,

1362
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:06,750
it's fun.

1363
00:41:10,899 --> 00:41:12,100
But again you see the fix there,

1364
00:41:12,179 --> 00:41:13,120
like it wasn't

1365
00:41:13,340 --> 00:41:16,760
the fix there again might be like at the wrong um level might be

1366
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:18,770
what if headless users did have heads,

1367
00:41:18,860 --> 00:41:19,020
right,

1368
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:21,639
and then she would edit the code to give headless users heads.

1369
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,919
But that wasn't the fix.

1370
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:27,739
So then you've got like a bunch of technical debt because

1371
00:41:27,739 --> 00:41:29,870
you gave headless users heads and they shouldn't have heads.

1372
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,520
Uh,

1373
00:42:10,510 --> 00:42:10,540
OK,

1374
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:11,979
moving forwards.

1375
00:42:13,959 --> 00:42:14,560
Kestrel says,

1376
00:42:14,739 --> 00:42:15,179
um,

1377
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,419
Are group homes a thing

1378
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:19,159
with an actual concept in mind or are

1379
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:21,510
they kind of vestigial leftovers from older development?

1380
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,419
They are a thing.

1381
00:42:23,659 --> 00:42:23,850
Uh,

1382
00:42:23,899 --> 00:42:24,820
you can think of them like a,

1383
00:42:24,879 --> 00:42:25,500
a clubhouse,

1384
00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:25,739
right,

1385
00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:26,139
that's the,

1386
00:42:26,219 --> 00:42:26,959
that's the goal.

1387
00:42:27,169 --> 00:42:27,719
So,

1388
00:42:28,209 --> 00:42:28,699
uh,

1389
00:42:28,820 --> 00:42:29,219
let's say you,

1390
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:29,469
you know,

1391
00:42:29,540 --> 00:42:31,000
you're working on a project

1392
00:42:31,139 --> 00:42:32,580
with a particular group,

1393
00:42:32,899 --> 00:42:35,020
you could go to that group home and maybe there'd be

1394
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:38,540
like a to do board or like some concept art,

1395
00:42:38,620 --> 00:42:39,139
etc.

1396
00:42:39,459 --> 00:42:43,179
and then there might be like a collection of world links to parts of your project,

1397
00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:43,620
etc.

1398
00:42:43,739 --> 00:42:46,560
so like a clubhouse for your world is a is a good analogy there.

1399
00:42:46,939 --> 00:42:47,280
Um,

1400
00:42:47,620 --> 00:42:50,500
the bug in that area is just like we haven't got around to it.

1401
00:42:51,479 --> 00:42:52,899
We also haven't got round to like

1402
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:54,330
better group UI,

1403
00:42:54,479 --> 00:42:55,639
better group management,

1404
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,639
all sorts of stuff like that,

1405
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:56,830
we,

1406
00:42:56,879 --> 00:42:57,790
we wanna get there.

1407
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,320
Like if you look at like the group UI and things like Steam or like even

1408
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,199
like Discord or something like that where you can sort of see who's in the group,

1409
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,350
give them maybe permissions,

1410
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,479
all sorts of stuff like that,

1411
00:43:06,919 --> 00:43:07,919
it's where we wanna go,

1412
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,459
but

1413
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,280
we haven't just haven't got to it.

1414
00:43:25,350 --> 00:43:27,409
I was actually playing around with the home code

1415
00:43:27,629 --> 00:43:28,969
um last week.

1416
00:43:29,939 --> 00:43:30,439
Due to some,

1417
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:32,239
some business corpoverse stuff.

1418
00:43:36,459 --> 00:43:37,159
I had to get,

1419
00:43:37,379 --> 00:43:38,979
I had to migrate their content across and there

1420
00:43:38,979 --> 00:43:40,939
was like a bunch of of issues doing that.

1421
00:44:16,850 --> 00:44:16,979
Alright,

1422
00:44:17,020 --> 00:44:18,610
there's a follow-up question related to the,

1423
00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:22,379
the issue conversation that's like really big and mostly directed at Freaks,

1424
00:44:22,459 --> 00:44:24,000
so I'll I'll leave Freaks to handle that one.

1425
00:44:36,030 --> 00:44:37,629
Castro is a follow-up question about group homes,

1426
00:44:37,709 --> 00:44:37,870
yeah,

1427
00:44:37,939 --> 00:44:38,389
um.

1428
00:44:40,439 --> 00:44:42,540
UI design and like um

1429
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,120
suitability pending because this is an idea I've just

1430
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,520
come up with like on top of my head,

1431
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,100
but like what if you signed in.

1432
00:44:49,629 --> 00:44:50,229
And

1433
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,379
like in your home world was an alert or some sort of display and it said like

1434
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,669
3 members of your group are in the group home.

1435
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:57,870
You wanna go right there?

1436
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,439
It's like yeah,

1437
00:44:58,479 --> 00:45:00,500
and then you hit yeah and it goes you right to the clubhouse.

1438
00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:07,310
And so,

1439
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:08,989
from the sort of clubhouse analogy,

1440
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:09,629
it's like,

1441
00:45:10,030 --> 00:45:10,489
hi guys,

1442
00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:11,449
what's going on?

1443
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:12,510
I'm in the clubhouse too.

1444
00:45:12,590 --> 00:45:13,989
Let's talk about clubhouse stuff.

1445
00:45:14,070 --> 00:45:17,090
I don't know what clubhouse people do in their clubhouses.

1446
00:45:17,709 --> 00:45:18,810
I guess it depends on the club.

1447
00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:29,840
When I worked,

1448
00:45:29,899 --> 00:45:30,419
um.

1449
00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:32,800
At Microsoft,

1450
00:45:33,260 --> 00:45:35,429
we periodically would have like

1451
00:45:36,060 --> 00:45:38,040
growth and learning and development

1452
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,129
sessions,

1453
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:39,459
you know,

1454
00:45:39,580 --> 00:45:40,620
like career development,

1455
00:45:41,139 --> 00:45:41,860
everyone hated them.

1456
00:45:42,179 --> 00:45:42,330
Uh,

1457
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:43,810
the equivalent like meme is like,

1458
00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:44,729
hi team,

1459
00:45:45,010 --> 00:45:46,060
make this like

1460
00:45:46,379 --> 00:45:48,159
bridge out of pasta

1461
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:49,959
and have its support away.

1462
00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:51,669
And that's like team building,

1463
00:45:52,090 --> 00:45:52,889
yeah,

1464
00:45:53,290 --> 00:45:53,600
right?

1465
00:45:53,770 --> 00:45:58,729
But we had one of those sessions we had in what's called the Microsoft Tree houses.

1466
00:45:58,810 --> 00:46:01,560
So there's a particular building on the Microsoft campus,

1467
00:46:01,810 --> 00:46:03,189
which is more like a city at this point,

1468
00:46:03,409 --> 00:46:03,969
um,

1469
00:46:04,090 --> 00:46:05,270
that has a tree house.

1470
00:46:05,689 --> 00:46:07,850
I can see if I can get some pictures of the Microsoft tree house.

1471
00:46:08,129 --> 00:46:09,810
But we went there to do one of these like

1472
00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:13,189
growth and learning experiences in this like tree house.

1473
00:46:13,610 --> 00:46:14,110
And

1474
00:46:14,290 --> 00:46:16,330
the entire time I was bored,

1475
00:46:16,610 --> 00:46:17,090
cold,

1476
00:46:17,169 --> 00:46:19,739
and very angry that I was bored and cold,

1477
00:46:19,830 --> 00:46:20,919
cos it was meant to be like,

1478
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,830
yo,

1479
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:22,850
let's go to the tree house,

1480
00:46:22,929 --> 00:46:23,909
the tree house is cool,

1481
00:46:23,959 --> 00:46:24,770
and I'm just like,

1482
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:25,750
I'm cold.

1483
00:46:31,620 --> 00:46:32,770
I want to go

1484
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:33,219
inside.

1485
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:36,379
Oh yeah,

1486
00:46:36,439 --> 00:46:37,760
a couple of photos of the,

1487
00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:39,389
of the Microsoft tree houses.

1488
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,800
Apparently there's more than one.

1489
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:53,959
Uh,

1490
00:46:54,030 --> 00:46:54,939
I hope that

1491
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:57,399
resonite never gets big enough that they can

1492
00:46:57,399 --> 00:46:59,879
legitimately decide to build a tree house,

1493
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,360
uh,

1494
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,280
for their workers,

1495
00:47:01,439 --> 00:47:01,810
right?

1496
00:47:02,429 --> 00:47:05,219
It just feels like you've got too much money when you get to that point.

1497
00:47:05,879 --> 00:47:06,070
Far,

1498
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,320
far too much money.

1499
00:47:09,350 --> 00:47:09,939
What should we do?

1500
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,040
Should we pay our employees more money or should we build a tree house?

1501
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:40,699
Castro says,

1502
00:47:40,739 --> 00:47:44,229
why has no one made a thriller centred around tech companies being cults?

1503
00:47:44,699 --> 00:47:45,919
There's quite a few sort of.

1504
00:47:46,689 --> 00:47:49,669
Analogous shows that that can get there.

1505
00:47:50,370 --> 00:47:51,129
Succession,

1506
00:47:51,530 --> 00:47:52,429
um,

1507
00:47:52,810 --> 00:47:53,810
I haven't watched any of Succession,

1508
00:47:53,889 --> 00:47:56,969
but I know that like that one goes into sort of corporate cutthroatness,

1509
00:47:57,330 --> 00:47:58,199
as does Suits.

1510
00:47:58,290 --> 00:48:00,169
That's more from a sort of like drama point of

1511
00:48:00,169 --> 00:48:02,330
view rather than like a horror though or a thriller.

1512
00:48:04,229 --> 00:48:04,550
Uh,

1513
00:48:04,629 --> 00:48:06,689
I don't know if it like fits exactly

1514
00:48:07,070 --> 00:48:08,030
what you're after,

1515
00:48:08,389 --> 00:48:11,870
but I am going to recommend a TV show called The Consultant.

1516
00:48:13,449 --> 00:48:14,649
We'll get you the IMDb page.

1517
00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:20,610
I don't really wanna spoil any of the,

1518
00:48:20,659 --> 00:48:20,820
Mr.

1519
00:48:20,850 --> 00:48:21,820
Robot's another good example,

1520
00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:22,320
yes,

1521
00:48:22,459 --> 00:48:22,649
thank you,

1522
00:48:22,739 --> 00:48:23,199
Nicky.

1523
00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:23,840
Um,

1524
00:48:23,939 --> 00:48:24,659
the consultant.

1525
00:48:25,709 --> 00:48:26,439
Fantastic,

1526
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,100
I watched it in literally one

1527
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,020
sitting.

1528
00:48:30,429 --> 00:48:32,310
And there's probably not gonna be a season two,

1529
00:48:32,550 --> 00:48:33,010
so

1530
00:48:33,149 --> 00:48:34,030
sad news.

1531
00:48:39,530 --> 00:48:42,810
Follows a relationship between employees and boss asking how far

1532
00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:44,810
we will go to get ahead and to survive.

1533
00:48:44,939 --> 00:48:45,209
Yes,

1534
00:48:45,530 --> 00:48:46,169
exactly that.

1535
00:49:04,969 --> 00:49:06,350
I believe we're out of questions,

1536
00:49:06,449 --> 00:49:07,010
um.

1537
00:49:08,709 --> 00:49:09,750
We're also out of time,

1538
00:49:10,110 --> 00:49:11,409
so I'm gonna go ahead and start

1539
00:49:11,899 --> 00:49:12,949
winding things down here.

1540
00:49:15,949 --> 00:49:16,199
Nki,

1541
00:49:16,270 --> 00:49:18,280
you are not that type of consultant.

1542
00:49:18,590 --> 00:49:18,750
Uh,

1543
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:21,729
the picture from the embed on IMDb is exactly,

1544
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:22,199
uh,

1545
00:49:22,270 --> 00:49:23,010
the consultant.

1546
00:49:23,149 --> 00:49:24,659
I believe that's his actor name as well.

1547
00:49:24,709 --> 00:49:25,909
I'm really bad at actor names,

1548
00:49:25,949 --> 00:49:26,949
I don't remember any of them.

1549
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:28,280
Uh,

1550
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:28,780
but

1551
00:49:29,860 --> 00:49:32,629
Through weird circumstances he ends up um.

1552
00:49:35,189 --> 00:49:37,929
Coming in as a consultant for the company and

1553
00:49:40,090 --> 00:49:42,530
Just be glad that like fruits isn't.

1554
00:49:43,489 --> 00:49:44,389
The consultant

1555
00:49:56,429 --> 00:49:58,979
I am gonna go ahead and leave things off here,

1556
00:49:59,149 --> 00:50:00,510
and I will speak to you guys soon.

1557
00:50:01,479 --> 00:50:02,270
Um,

1558
00:50:06,510 --> 00:50:07,389
Speaking of consultants,

1559
00:50:07,540 --> 00:50:08,649
J4 is a consultant

1560
00:50:09,570 --> 00:50:09,649
for,

1561
00:50:09,669 --> 00:50:09,939
um,

1562
00:50:09,949 --> 00:50:13,169
you can take a look at their personal website for more information on their day job.

1563
00:50:13,949 --> 00:50:14,360
Uh,

1564
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,790
they're a consultant for like,

1565
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:17,739
I think like CICD matters,

1566
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:18,840
like various businesses,

1567
00:50:18,959 --> 00:50:19,520
so it's cool.

1568
00:50:22,750 --> 00:50:24,110
I will speak to you guys later.