welcome office hours. It's 4 p.m. We'll get started.
Uh, we have only one question in, um,
the question thread right now.
Um, Randy Rules which says, What's your favourite prime number?
Uh, everyone should say this out loud to themselves right now,
cos you all know the answer.
There we go.
Everyone got the answer. Correct.
And with that, we don't have any other actual questions.
Um, So, guys, if you want, uh, ask any questions about Resonate,
uh, I'll get to them in the order that they appear and I'll answer them, uh,
whatever they might be
if there are no questions, uh, silence.
Or eventually we'll start talking about L
I recycling or something that just happens.
All right, We've got some non
resonate questions. That's fine.
I I'll I'll entertain them whilst we have no, you know, resonate questions.
Jackal says, How's the dog doing today? Do is not that happy.
And that's the reason why that is.
We can't go on long walks because it's it's pouring down with rain,
and they don't like the rain
and they don't like their raincoat.
Um, they can go out to pee, but I haven't really taught them the like.
Some, like dog owners, teach their dog like a, you know, potty command or whatever.
And they would just like, you know, they would just, like, empty the tanks, right?
They'll just be like, all right,
I know.
I'm just gonna,
like, empty both tags and then we go straight back in,
but the dog doesn't know that command yet.
So I kind of have to, like, be like, Hey, I know it's wet. I know it's raining.
I know you're wet and dirty because you're, like, lower to the ground and so forth if,
like, mud gets in you or whatever,
but like, we'll go inside the moment you pee and they don't understand that.
But it's like, Hey, if you pee, we can go back inside
and we will get dry. I promise. I've got a towel, like, laid out on the floor for them.
And when they get back from the, um, walk, I take off their, um, like gear, et cetera.
They'll just sort of like roll around in the in the towel
to dry off coat means that most of their body stays dry,
but they they hate the
Hey, no barking.
Oh, they look really sleepy. You go back to sleep. Yeah.
Um, second question, um, from Alex Velasco,
who asked about Have I done advent from code yet?
I don't
want to do advent of code ever.
Um, I think it's a good thing for people who are learning.
Um, but there are two types of, like, programming.
There's programming for, like, actual production use cases. Um,
and then there's like, programming for golf or theory or science reasons.
And advent of code often ends up in the sort of
theory, science based stuff.
If you've ever done a programming interview and
they've asked you stuff which you know,
that you're just gonna google on the job,
you know what I mean? It's like on the job.
Like if you work in Web services, which I spent a lot of time doing,
you're mostly dealing with Jason, right?
You're making Jason look good, or you're, you know,
taking in Jason turning it into other Jason and then spitting it back out again,
right?
None of that is like inverting a binary through on a white board.
And so I don't know why we keep doing that.
Programming classes and, uh, programming interviews.
Um, but most of advent of code ends up feeling like that, You know?
Now, some people in that sort of area or that sort of scope would say, Oh,
you don't know programming that well, it's like I absolutely do.
I know, like many languages. But I also know how to effectively create
and acquire knowledge, um,
to enable me to achieve a task which is a lot better. Like, you know,
um,
I can just do it. Right. So I was making a lamp, and it
like that, like a while ago Paused that cos I got the dog,
and I'm dealing with that right now.
Um, but
I just, you know, pulled out my Arduinos, pulled out my circuit boards,
pulled out my LED S and started typing.
And I haven't touched that in many, many, many years. I so I. I don't understand it.
There's basically two realms there.
Um, there's this channel. I can't remember the name. Um, some of them might have it.
It's a younger, um,
uh, professional programming competition. Um, com competitor.
And there are a couple of videos where he goes through, um,
like an interview or he has, like,
a mock interview of another creator in the sort of tech interview space.
And it's just it's just
it's phenomenal that, like their mind,
can also know everything about programming but work completely differently in the
You know,
I guess they're thinking like Sherlock Holmes style when they're programming.
And I'm just thinking like,
Where's the next paycheck? Or like, when can I hit? Go and make this work right?
So it it's just different now That doesn't mean
that my code's less efficient or anything like that.
I still do wonder about that.
But I'm not gonna sit there and figure out the O notation of just like taking a random
Jason object and turn it into another Jan and
a Jason object and spit it back out again.
Hey,
stop barking.
Yep.
You know what you did wrong. Don't look at me like that. You know what you did
moving forwards to, uh, Svein?
Who says, uh,
I have a question regarding the open Excel library that is being tested internally.
Would this allow native eye tracking for new headsets?
I don't know that it's being developed internally. If you can link me a
github of, uh
um issue. Then I'll I'll know what's going on.
I predict that's one of gins, random projects that they don't make other issues for.
I'll get onto them about that because, um,
yeah, I. I don't know what that means.
I mean, I know what the word's been. I just I, I don't know, like tested internally.
I haven't done any testing internally recently.
Uh, DRACONIS
says, uh,
have you found a neat world or item in the
past week that you can tell us about and share?
Uh,
yes, but I don't remember who they are. Um,
I can probably find it in user creations. Give me a second, I'll I'll find it.
Of course, user creations is in our forum.
Um, I didn't really agree with that decision, but there we go.
Um,
Virgil created the, uh, 3D 2 D text screens from Gary's mod remade in resonate.
Uh, I put text everywhere.
Um,
there's a lot of sort of science experiments where I need text and
sometimes just like lining that text up and putting it somewhere is like,
difficult.
Um, particularly if you're in, um,
like in, uh uh, desktop. And you don't have depth perception.
Um, so it's It's better that that sort of lines it up.
We have a very similar tool made for a scientific project, but, um,
glad that that one is, you know, for text, et cetera.
Uh, spec says, Have you tried steam VR SVR link streaming thoughts on it?
I haven't yet. I do have a quest.
Uh, I actually don't know where that quest is right now. Um,
like it somewhere.
I just I don't know where I moved And like, you know, when you move,
sometimes you just lose stuff, like I know I've got
I know I didn't lose it like it's in the apartment. I just don't know where it is.
Um, so I'll have to kind of find that
and give it a try.
Um, I don't really have a reason to try it, which is, like,
sometimes the problem with these technologies.
Um,
the the quest that I bought a long, long time ago is meant to be my sort of,
like mobile VR set up.
Um, but I don't like, need it that much.
Um, if I'm at the house, um, on, like, an event or something,
and I don't usually need to be in VR.
I can get away with desktop. Uh, but I do carry que
around Sometimes if I, you know, might need to do VR.
I'll eventually try it once I find the headset.
But that means I've got, like, you know, summon the energy to put that on my to do list.
Um, Raid says who in the team is currently developing Resonate, uh,
everyone that's yellow.
Actually, everyone that's yellow, they they do something. Some parts of it.
Um, I don't like the distinction on on,
like developing that exists because developing is like a a multifaceted,
multidisciplinary approach to a thing.
If you said who's on the engineering team, that's a better question.
If you said who's on the content team, that's a better question.
But who's developing resonate the entire team
in ways sometimes that you don't like expect? Like, um,
like a lot of the I did yesterday was I. I wrote, uh, a internal wiki page.
I just said the word wiki is A lot of people can ask about that. Don't.
It was like an internal piece of documentation about data
privacy because we need to keep up on that.
I'm an expert,
Um, that is developing resonate.
But I just threw text at a wall that you'll never see, so that was cool.
Uh, Alex, too.
I says I wonder what you think about alternative modelling without polygons.
Uh, so things like geometry, nodes and, uh, maybe me
balls might come on there, Um,
S EFS as well. And, uh, also, I guess now, uh, go
and splats cos those are the the new technology.
I'm really excited about those, but, like, I've I've yet to sort of see,
um, the depth there that you'd get with a completely custom thing,
like at some point, even with all the power of geometry nodes,
um, you can sort of see, like a a continuation of, of of what's going on.
You know, it's very useful for big scenes or lots of collections of objects.
Like if you imagine, say, like a clearing in a wood that had a log cabin,
you could absolutely do the clearing in the
wood with the trees around using geometry nodes,
et cetera.
You could do the grass. You could do the landscape shrubberies bushes, etcetera.
But like I think you'd be hard pressed to do a really good log cabin in geometry nodes.
You could certainly do one,
but at some point, you're going to need the power of, like, individually,
like rotating polygons on that log cabin.
I'm happy to be proven wrong. I just think like, you know, I think cos I
at
some point you'll need to get to a place where you need to go back to polygons even if
you generate it using geometry nodes and then bake it
to a mesh and then edit it from there.
Uh, specs talks about a LXR. Yes. So a XR Um uh, Keys is working on that.
There is APR open, but I don't know the status of it. Uh, tiki says just curious.
Acu colliders Less heavy to use than sphere or capsule.
Uh, always like sphere sphere is is is
awesome.
Um,
if you understand how spheres work sounds like I'm insulting your intelligence.
Let me explain if you know what a sphere is in terms of a collision,
then you can see how it's It's very, um
uh, performing.
Um, sphere Collision is basically a distance track. Right.
So, um, you know where the sphere is. You know how big it is.
You know where the other sphere it is and how big it is.
So it's just overlapping distances. Basically,
Um, so that's
that's why it's like, really, really
but, yeah, there's the the graph there.
Uh,
Sara
says if they're only gonna be a weight systematic for physics,
you actually see that most, um, character controllers, uh,
I think also some of the like collider components have got a weight on them,
and that's meant to be used for rigid body physics.
It doesn't exist,
but like it was just added because sometimes it's easier to add them.
Uh, neon says VR social platform and brackets. We don't
censor other VR social platforms here. You can say VR track.
You can say roblox you can say,
um, meta horizons.
I don't know why you would, but, you know, on meta horizons, uh, you could say
RM.
I need to check out RRA
again. I heard they they're doing a lot of stuff.
Last time I went there, I was looking for content,
and I could basically find, like,
paintball tag and capture the flag very skinned way.
So I couldn't find any custom behaviour.
There was this, like submarine game with it, like de
synced with everyone.
And we got motion sick because there was, like,
a weird submarine moving in six degrees of freedom desy
from everyone. So that was that was bad.
Uh, as for the actual like feature,
which is detecting if the user is a friend using something in there,
we we could make a component for it.
It probably wouldn't be like AAA. No,
Um because of security, like you say,
Uh, if you want to take a look at the, um, issue I have on low motion mode,
you'll sort of read some of the stuff there basically like,
uh,
exposing that value to other people to see it like could have some security issues.
Um, particularly in proto
flux, where you can just sort of override it, ET cetera.
Uh
so
says it's never really been involved with this before. Or is it?
Listen, and probably it's literally office hours, So it's like an a MA.
But like we do with voice, it's it's modelled after,
uh,
university professors who are very busy and don't have time to answer questions.
So they just say, Hey, between this, uh,
time and this time I'm in my office and doing absolutely nothing coming in.
Like usually they've got their feet up, Voyo
says.
How do you handle disagreements amongst each other for the direction of Resonate?
Um,
that's something that we're working on. They don't occur that much. Um,
usually the the common disagreement right now is like, What do we do next?
Right, Um, there's always agreement about what we're discussing.
So it's like, Oh, yeah, we want to do this. We wanna do that. We want to do this.
It's just like, What do we do next? Um,
that's driven a lot by the fact of like, bandwidth when it comes to like engineering,
we've got three engineers and, um,
I'm always busy,
just sort of like jumping on grenades and running into burning buildings
when stuff you know comes down the email line cos I,
I know how to fix it quickly.
Um, so, like, privacy and security and stuff like that,
um,
fs
is doing like the big ticket features and then gains
is doing, um, graphics based stuff.
Um,
gains also does a lot of work in the business side of
things that's trying to make us money trying to make us profitable,
trying to get us paid,
uh, trying to make us able to grow like a lot of people say,
Why don't you just hire more programmers?
We can't pay them right now. It's really unfair. Like, why would we do that?
Like I haven't been paid in, like,
five years or so that I've been working on this product so,
like it's not fair to anyone else to put them under that, even if they say it is OK,
Trust me.
After five years, it's not like I. I need money at some point,
Um, so
there's a lot of work in that area, Um, but that means that they're not doing
as much programming as they might do if they were, like, you know,
100% focused on programming.
Um, So as for disagreements there,
it's usually just like the order that we do things
and the order usually comes up to two things right.
It's not like a a collection of things. It's like, Oh,
we figured out that these two items are important.
We just need to decide the order that they appear in,
Um, the last time that was a big disagreement was the order of, um, IK and settings.
We did settings first and then IK next, because
IK will need settings. So I think the agreement will do or something like that.
Uh, Reid says to re
the question Who's on the engineering team? I just answered that.
That skeins, Um uh, fruits
and I
rave has expressed interest, uh, at
access to the codebase.
Um, they technically have access to the code base, but one of the problems with with
resin, et cetera, is like getting a new computer set up to build.
It takes a long time right now, and it would probably kill a day or two because we're,
you know, telling someone new how to do it.
The C I CD work that I've been doing is
designed to kind of make that a little bit easier.
The first chunk of that for our public dependencies will make it,
uh, a little bit easier.
I, I would say, like, 40% easier.
And then once we get private dependencies, C IC ding um, it'll make it 100% easier.
As for like not hearing about engineering,
Um, it's interesting because like there's,
there's two rooms of thought in the sort of job world as well.
Um, about what we call,
uh, people who write code, like sometimes they're called, uh, programmers.
Sometimes they're called engineers.
Sometimes they're called
other things like that.
Um, engineering and software engineering has become, um,
the sort of at the term because it really is like an engineering focus thing.
Um,
you have to like,
if you imagine, like, a car
and then you imagine resonate as a car.
Uh, a car's a bad one because you call that like a mechanic, but like whatever,
like a car engineer, right?
You know, you have to go,
like in the car underneath the car on one of those
little boards where you can roll around on your back,
et cetera.
You have to, like, get dirty, get greasy, you know,
get various, like car fluids all over yourself.
The same thing happens with software engineering, right? It's not just
writing code.
There's a lot of thought that goes into how to make that code work with each other,
how to make it better, how to make it fast, et cetera.
So that's why the the the general industry is moving towards engineering.
And that's why the team is called engineer. Uh,
Lex has take their question, so it'll go straight forwards to the next one.
Chand Lex says how come there are people with visible characters in their name?
How do I get one? They're using Unicode. So,
um, back when computers were younger, let's say, um, we, um
F for, like,
mostly political reasons didn't need to bother about
things like language and translation and other cultures,
because it was just like
a
bunch of white guys that were doing computers, right?
So,
um, they came up with the asy
standard, and the
asy standard just basically has, like,
English letter alphabet characters in it.
Um, and as they expanded to the rest of the world, we needed more characters, right?
So we needed to expand beyond
asi.
And the way we went there is unicode, which is not, uh,
a way to sort of unify all of the character encoding standards.
Um, so it has every language in it.
Um, because it has every language in it and every type of character in it.
There's just
like, I don't know how many I wanna say, like you know,
50 or so characters that are just blank.
And the reason why they're blank is because they, um they do special things.
For example, there's a blank character it will render entirely as blank,
but it signals to the text rendering engine of most software.
There can be errors, of course.
The the next part of the sentence is, um, right to left, not left to right.
And you can just do those over and over again.
There's a great, uh, video by Tom Scott.
I think about the black dot which is like a meme on iPhones,
um, which is to do with Unicode. Um,
Tom Scott was originally a linguist. Um,
so that's why, like a lot of his videos are linguistically themed.
Um, some aren't, but there are a lot that are.
So, uh, here's a video on that one.
there's also one he did about,
uh,
characters or something like that. Um
ah, yes. Here it is.
Um, so the unicode wanted to have support for, um, this language.
I don't remember the name of it. I'd have to re-watch the video.
Um, but in this language, um, a space,
as in usually the white space that you're talking about
isn't actually just a space.
It's a line because, um,
the text is written with a line meaning like the sentence or the word that you're
reading and then chisel marks above or below
the line that refer to which character is.
And so therefore, a space isn't blank white space. It's just,
um, like a line right.
It's just a continuation of a line with nothing on it.
It's a really, really complicated um problem.
Um, and so you know, that's why it's occurring.
Uh, as for why they should occur or not, that's a moderation question.
I do have some sort of stuff, um,
on my list at some point to make it so that nameplates have a minimum width.
So even when you're using those weird, funky characters,
you can still kick them and ban them from there.
If you have any problems.
It's a moderation problem, all scrolling down past the Tom Scott stuff. Uh, NIE
says, hey there.
Just saw this here listening as a work on armature
blend shape issues with there may be a bug report.
Something breaks from moving your mesh and blender.
Um, I don't wanna mean to pick on you nookie.
Um, but something breaks is the least descriptive, least important,
least informative sentence you can have, right?
So
something breaks.
Um,
you you need to describe what can break. And most likely that can be a bug report.
It may be a misunderstanding between yourself and
how we do things involving meshes and armatures,
but without that something being defined, I don't know.
Uh, answer to electron is this question about the Unicode names.
It's moderation if you ask them.
Um,
why do the bones and blend sheeps move around when I export? Oh, you mean the order.
Like the order of the bones and the order of the blend shapes. Yeah.
Uh, you take that together,
there might already be an issue for the blend shape ordering.
Um, we'll we'll have to look on on, uh, the the bones. I'm aware that they do it as well.
Um, it's something to do with, like, the pipeline between,
like a model file and resonate OC, um, just get like a digital notebook.
And what I mean by that is like any application, I use obsidian.
So I'm biassed for obsidian. But like any application
that allows you to make notepad documents that automatically
save like lots of people do this with,
like, notepad plus Plus.
That's fine. You can do that there,
basically like when they close their computer down
the notepad document. If you haven't saved it, it'll just stay there.
And so when you reopen that application, it's It's back there,
like any application that does that and then just write stuff
in there and and that way you'll start making a list.
I have, like hundreds of lists about various things heading back to the questions.
Now,
Blizzard says, What's this about?
You missed a a bunch of it, but like, Yeah, it's, uh,
I answer questions about Resonate for half an hour.
You can listen.
That's it.
We can complicate it with various other like words and
phrases and and names and and and and noises.
But that that that's it.
Uh, casara.
That's a moderation question. You can go ahead and answer it.
Uh, ask it at the moderation office hours, Uh,
do be aware that they get the same question every single week.
Um, exactly that. So you might wanna read back on previous, um, office hours.
There's a couple of recordings available on office hours dot proper
prime.com,
but critic care even.
Sorry, uh, where you'll be able to sort of hear stuff like that again?
Um,
yeah,
like they like II.
I feel really bad for them because we actually had a conversation about it.
It was like,
you get really interesting office hours prior,
and we just get questions about whether we can
put appendages on our avatars in public worlds,
which, of course, you can't.
But like, people go like what if, like I, you know,
sacrifice a goat at the top of a mountain and then paraglide to Zimbabwe
and then wear a hat. It's like, No, you you still can't,
right?
It's not that
complicated.
I don't actually know what they say, but, like, you know, it's that, like, com,
complexity is going there.
You know, I
don't think gaudy
is, um
is the word, though, Like I would like use?
Um, I remember you can read our our user guidelines. Uh, a link.
I'm trying to get to you right now, but I'm fumbling here.
You can go there and that that, like
that, is what they abide by.
um So
there you go.
If you wanna ask that at any time,
which, uh, is not actually at the office hours as well,
you could drop in a moderation ticket as like a general inquiry.
They're happy to
answer questions there, even if you know, if it's not a moderation issue.
If it's a moderation question, they're happy to answer it for you there as well.
Like lots of people like, Imagine that moderation is scary, et cetera.
But the more you interact with them, the more you know that they're not,
except ozie as well.
Cos you know Ozie is typing. That's scary.
Uh, B lizzo your question, uh,
got skipped because it wasn't me. You really scary with those like noodles?
Do you like shut those indoors? Sometimes
the reason this comes up is because, um, it happened once, like years ago,
where I accidentally, um I'm in an apartment building and there's lots of, like,
heavy auto closed fire doors, et cetera.
I once accidentally ended up with the door closing and a
dog I was looking after on one side of the door
and me on the other side of the door.
And so, like the dog wasn't injured or anything.
It was just like it was attached to the leash, which was shut in the door.
And so it freaked out cos it didn't understand what was going on.
And I'm just like shit, right?
And I'm trying to, like,
push open this door and it's panicking whilst also trying
not to get it caught in the actual door.
And it's just oh,
like I hate the big, heavy doors.
Uh, I've trained my
dog to be really good at doors, but when I'm looking after, like other people's dogs,
like I can train them.
But like if the training isn't needed when they go home, it's just it's not gonna fun.
Little anecdote for you hear
the creator of the very popular Minecraft mode Equivalent exchange two. I'm
a AAD because three is a bit different, but equivalent exchange.
I don't remember the history like they made equivalent exchange, but then,
like several other people, made equivalent exchange.
But like anyway,
the author of that, uh, used to,
um,
used to work for maker for a little while,
and at one point they got stuck behind a door because
of some sort of security related matter at a Microsoft office.
And they they twitter DM ed me with help.
I'm stuck behind a door,
and I would never delete that DM because it's so
funny and every now and again I'll find it.
And then we'll have a conversation and reminisce about the old times.
Anyway, let's go back to actual questions rather than door talk.
Uh, Lotus says any, uh, advice or useful tips on shader in resume?
Uh, it depends like basically, I would say go up to anyone like literally anyone.
Specs would be a good example, Um, et cetera,
like anyone that you want to help with Shader on
and never tell them the shader that you're trying to use.
So don't go up to them and go like I use poo
on VR chat. Can you make my avatar look like poo
like try and describe the visual look that you're looking for? Are you looking for,
you know, um, a particular tune? Are you looking for that?
Like describe what you want to see.
Even bringing out photos of what your avatar looks like on another platform
will help out a lot more than just randomly listing off Shader.
I was helping some guy the other day and he didn't have eyes.
I'm like, Why don't you have eyes?
It's like, Oh, well, over in vard
chat, I use the eye shader, and I'm like, Of course, there's an eye Shader.
The way the eye shader works is eyes aren't actually modelled into the model.
Um, there's just a point,
um,
on each of the model and then a shader creates an eye
automatically from that point. All right?
Yeah, We don't have an eye shader, so you can need to go back into blender,
add two spheres and just put them in those empty
eye sockets before I get terrified by your eyeless avatar.
It makes really good eyes, but, like, it's weird.
My eyes
has misbehaved. I now look like a horror film. Uh, villain.
Uh, ozie says,
here's a recent question frooks recently mentioned the settings
been deferred for GDPR stuff like the account download.
But that, uh, that is an update being at least does it mean it done? It is done for now.
Yeah, there'll be more on that today, actually, um,
some stuff happening there that I'm doing,
Um, but yeah, that should be done. Now, Uh, fru
is catching up with some administrative stuff today.
Um, they'll probably be back on coding this week,
but I don't wanna make any promises ahead of them because it's up to them.
Um, as
Fuki says about the the bones
reimaging I did mention it before.
Yeah, it's something about the pipeline between your file
our asset importer library called R Simp and and and Resonate on the other side.
Uh, Kara
asked about the inspirations for the cloud home.
So a lot of the inspirations there came from the video game series Mist.
I was ecstatic about that.
I did not encourage that or not encourage it cos I'm incredibly biassed.
It's my favourite game series ever.
But a lot were inspired by that.
Uh, there were other inspirations I've forgotten most, though.
Ask in a stream.
Um, if you ask in one of the streams there, there,
there's usually enough people at the stream to sort of like, um uh, answer you there.
I forget I forget the other. Like, uh, mrs one. I forget the others.
Something like that. Yeah.
John Blake says will reserve names. Ever get unreserved. They will get unreserved.
We've, um, yet to sort of decide when that will be.
Um, it will probably be before, like, summer next year,
but I like that's a really like I don't know
right now.
Um,
rice is solid or hollow door. Um,
solid wood fire door,
automatic. Closer,
strong, automatic. Closer. Hence my worry with talk.
Halo. Yeah, Halo is another reference.
Uh, Ozie asks how the administrative stuff. Then it's just never ending.
It's It's literally it's just never ending.
Like when you think it's done, it just more stuff appears. And
like you said that you can't talk about it. We can.
It's things like taxes lawyers finances, uh,
accounting, paying people, um, budgeting, um, spreadsheets, policies, um,
forms, like sometimes, um, if you check out a YouTube channel called,
um
uh, Lewis Rossman.
Uh, Lewis Rossman is a is a MacBook like repair.
He does other things than Macs, but mostly like apple stuff. And he repairs them.
He used to have a shop in New York City,
and he's left New York City because he was just tired of what New York City was doing.
But, um,
he
continually gets random pieces of paper from, uh, New York State,
saying you owe us money and he's like, No, I don't
And that that kind of happens with, um,
administrative stuff at a business,
but like, it's actually valid, you know?
So, like, it's some like, What did I do the other day?
I registered us on the official D MC a agent portal page thingy, right?
So I paid, I think, $6
to have, um, our company listed in,
like, the official D MC a registry so that they know who to contact it,
just like it says Make a ticket.
But it's like email, this email address, and then that makes a ticket.
Uh, but we have to do that right?
And that means anyone in America who wants to file AD MC a
claim and for some reason uses the official website instead of just,
you know, documentation we have on our website,
they know who to go to like we have
there.
But then, like, you know, the government will just send you a piece of paper,
and suddenly you need to do stuff like there's a new thing called, uh Dac
seven.
I don't even know what it is
but like Patreon wants us to fill in a AD
seven something.
Yeah. Look, even Twitch has got D
seven.
So, like look, it just It just randomly appeared the government just decided D a
seven was a thing.
And now Twitch has to deal with it. Patreon has to deal with it. We have to deal with it.
No idea what it is.
D
seven is an EU regulation that requires certain companies to report
revenue generated by persons who monetize on digital platforms on twitch.
These persons are monetized streamers who reside in the
EU to comply with new tax reporting requirements.
Twitch is contacting the vetting
monetized streamers to inform them they need to
fill out the new required tax interview.
Their deadline to complete the DC seven form can be found in
the email and create a dashboard notification sent to the impacted streamers.
Exact same thing happened on patreon, but just like the government were just like,
let's pull some random letters out of a Scrabble bag and send
an email to everyone that they need to do this thing.
And you don't think about that a lot, right? You know, you you'd love it.
for for for fruits and the rest of the team to just be writing code all the time.
But sometimes it's just like all I've done today is worry about tax.
And I never want anyone to get like mad when they're doing that stuff.
Like I know it's mad because, you know, we haven't done updates, et cetera.
But if we did not do that stuff, we would not exist
eventually.
Someone would like be like, Hey,
you haven't filled in form ABC 24 D slash five We're gonna shut you down,
and it's just it's terrifying.
It's It's terrifying.
Uh,
I actually probably ask going back to
questions rather than just ranting about bureaucracy.
Um, is there a way to update the cloud home about losing its other content? Uh,
theoretically, yes. Possibly. No.
Um,
I, I love that.
I used to use that all the time because it's just like theoretically, yes,
but that's just a theory.
Uh, so possibly no, as well.
Uh uh. I would have to think how to do it.
And it depends on what the changes you've made.
Uh, and I would have to, like, write it down.
Um, not easily Let's let's set off a Not easily.
Uh, Casara
says, uh, I think it's possible to make a book of turning pages. Absolutely. Um,
let me go ahead and link a random video from, like, years ago on my channel. Um, that
has those, uh, that sort of concept.
So once again, missed. There you go. Yeah.
Uh, that uses a book model, which I downloaded from, uh, sketch fab. I think,
Um, the key thing about a book, if you want it to be open, all is you need to do bones.
Um, so
you would usually have, like, the root bone on the back cover,
and then a a leaf bone on the front cover.
And then you've got you've got a hinge basically there, and you can open the book.
Uh, if you're wondering about UX and stuff like that, Yeah, absolutely. So,
um, if you make the turning pages, um, animation cool enough, then like you just
you like you, like, refresh
a UXX canvas with new data every time they turn the page. They don't like.
There's not literally, like,
hundreds of pages modelled in there with polygons and stuff.
Uh, nie
says how profit motivated this team.
I already know how to answer that one without, like,
honouring like the individual team members.
Thoughts on that.
Uh, I can tell you how profit motivated I am, which is, like, not at all.
Um, I want enough money in my bank balance to never work again.
Um, And then that way, I'll work on stuff I'm passionate about.
Does that mean once I have enough money, I'll quit? Resonate? No.
It just means that, like, the money won't be a problem anymore. Like I am
aggressively worried about money. And, uh, I hate it, and I've always hated it.
I've never wanted to work.
Um, but I'm lucky. Very lucky.
Very privileged in the fact that I get to work on stuff that's so fun.
Um, there are lots of people in the world that never get to work on what's fun.
They just have to work on on what makes them money and what makes their family money.
Um, and that's sad, right?
I worked on
let's see from all the way, like, well, we'll skip the like, early roles, but yeah,
I did like motorcycle racing.
Um, video game, live streaming.
And now like VR game engine stroke. Social metaverse, Right? I'm very lucky.
I did do five months at a financial services company.
Let's not talk about that story for another day.
Uh, Ryan says so. There are four more hours in the day. What do you use them for?
I would literally use them for my dog right now. II. I feel guilty sometimes. Cos like
you know, we go on walks, he's fed. He has everything he could dream of as a dog.
But,
uh, there are some days where I don't have time to give him a long walk.
We should have a walk enough to get his exercise in. But,
um, you know,
um,
I could just put on the put on the collar, put on the lead,
walk in one direction for two hours, walk in another direction for two hours,
and that would be great.
There's a park I wanted to take him to as well. It's, uh,
uh called Discovery Park. It's over on the Seattle side of this area.
It's a beautiful park.
Uh, it's very far away from me, and, uh so I'd have to, like car somehow,
and I don't have a car.
I've looked up. And technically, um, dogs and pets can ride, um, buses here.
Yeah, depending on how busy the bus is,
you need to buy an additional bus ticket for the dog,
which I think is cute and adorable.
And if I did that,
I would find some way to sort of attach it to his collar in a nonirritating way,
you know, just with, like, a little, like convention badge, but for the dog,
it just be cute.
Um,
but the issue I have is like to do that I would need to train the dog to be OK on the bus,
cos Right now, I think that he would just be overstimulated,
um, particularly if it was a busy bus. Just like people getting on and off.
There's noises. There's sounds, there's movement.
I need him to be trained well enough to basically sit at my feet,
uh, in the the aisle of the bus seat
and and be happy. And I can't do that for the recording.
Um, I'm gonna go ahead and read out frix response to how profit motivated the team is.
And also Cromer's response just because it'll be good for prosperity
uh So, for instance,
the primary goal is to make a project that is our passion we can be proud of.
Our profit motivation is mostly to make sure we keep the project
running and to pay people to be able to do that.
Beyond that, we're not looking to maximise profits at every cost.
Especially if it would require making decisions
that go against our morals and ethics.
Absolutely. That Yeah, um, we never want to do anything weird or or or sketchy.
Uh, it's not worth it.
Uh, short course is any go to, uh, obsidian plugins.
You recommend, uh, daily rollover to do daily rollover to
do is probably like the only one that, like I aggressively use.
There are so many like, um, plugins for obsidian that I get, like, really like, um,
like, fomo fear of missing out about it.
Like, I know that, um, Obsidian added properties to notepad pages.
Um, months ago, I haven't used it yet cos it scares me,
But the moment I start using that, I'm gonna, like, you know,
have to rearchitect my whole notepad scheme.
Uh,
Kromer's response to the profit question says just enough so that I can
work on this project full time and not rely on freelance gigs.
Yeah, exactly that.
Like the the money, it's It's awkward. II I don't like.
I don't like the fact that, like, I
have to put pressure on myself and on the team and on
fruits right now for us to find money to keep us running.
But if we don't, then eventually,
I'm gonna have to get a a regular job doing something I don't like again,
maybe something I like.
But if it's something I like, then I have to split the passions.
And I don't wanna split the passion like I would have
to basically be like either a job I don't care about.
But I'm just doing it for the money, which would make me sad.
Or I would have to have two passions that I work
on as passion stuff and and that would be difficult.
It would also go back to the point where it's like, all right,
it's 5 p.m. Let me rub my hands together and now
work on resonate stuff so it would just slow everything down.
So it's it's just sad.
Uh, N
says, How might uh, one go about creating assets like building parts,
that self update from them in cloud versions.
Uh,
you can sort of do that with cloud spawning.
Um, which a lot of people do for, like, technical stuff like red
by E
Opus Cloud spawning and version checking using cloud variables
and stuff like that and can auto update.
Uh, but I haven't really seen it done for, like a, um,
like a piece of a world like a a wall or a door, A
self updating door that would be that would be a good meme. Here's an idea for you.
Make a door that self updates or, you know, at least there's an update Prompt.
Um, that's locked a different way each time,
and they just randomly update it.
So every time it updates,
people have to like if they put it in their world to access a room,
they have to unlock it again.
You know, like maybe one time it needs a lock picking mini
game one time. It needs like a a combination one time it needs
an actual key, which you can find somewhere else or whatever.
Make puzzle games, please. For the love of God, make puzzle games. I love them.
Make them. Please. Please.
Going back to the the goal and the probability whilst people are typing.
Um,
I once got a very, very, very, very drunk, uh, at a work event and
someone was like,
You know, what's your goal? Where do you see yourself in five years?
And I'm like in a cabin in the woods that
has solar panels and Wi Fi and completely alone.
And they're like, That's an interesting I've never heard that.
Like, What do you mean?
It's like Usually it's like I wanna be like EVP of, like, big wig party bigwig, Yo,
fancy title McGee, Business cards and suits.
And I'm like, No, never,
with the exception that if it needs to happen to make the project work, I'll do it.
Uh, trend
says, how does, uh,
currently resonant make money from outside of patreon
and what it is planned in the future?
Uh, we want to expand to other payment. Um, uh, instruments.
There's, like, a thread that talks about it.
Uh, we're looking to a bunch of stuff, uh, like stripe,
uh, Telia,
which is,
uh, the second life teams payment orchestrator.
Uh, Kofi
um uh,
you name it. We've looked at it right.
We did like a full on, like, just research and stuff we looked into, like PayPal.
We looked into
square at some point, like, you know, like other payment providers.
See which is better See, which gives us the best like percentage, et cetera.
Um,
as for other stuff, we do have some business contracts that I can't talk about.
You'll hear about them when we can talk about them.
And, you know, it's just like people wanna use
resume
for business stuff. Sometimes they pay us.
Casara
says I'd love a pin code at door.
I actually do have a tutorial about that one, but it's for, uh, it's for N.
So, like, I'm gonna have to remake that for resume.
Uh
um, manifold garden is a very, very good puzzle game.
If you like manifold garden, make sure you check out antechamber as well.
Um, very same veins
as well as super liminal, which would be very similar to manifold garden.
Um, there's this, like, really cool like puzzle action stealth game
that I find fascinating but can't play because it terrifies me.
Um, it's called echo or something, I think. Let me open up the steam. Oh,
no. The store page showed me a cool game.
I must now look at its page and add it to my wish list and then never play it.
Where are we?
No steam refreshed. And the game's got and I don't remember the name. Oh, never
mind.
Yeah, it's called Echo.
Um, so in echo, Um, you're like, uh, I don't really remember this.
I didn't get far at all. I played it for six hours. Uh, you play
like the daughter of, like, a big scientist person or something,
and you have to, um, take this red cube to, like, the centre of what's called a palace.
But the palace is like this sort of organism
that self builds repeating rooms.
It's just a massive wave function collapse, if you know what that is.
Uh, but inside the palace are these, like, robots that act like you
and they will chase after you and kill you. And it's terrifying.
But I was really intrigued by the whole like principle of this.
Like, the palace doesn't want to be big or confusing. It just is.
It would be a bit like,
sort of walking around at sort of a microcellular level with through a body, right.
It would just be really confusing.
Like I'm sure you've all seen the gif of, like, the little guy that could
carrying the giant globule of crap up and down a cell.
It's like, That's weird, right?
But it doesn't intend to be weird. It just is there, uh, Ray talks about, uh, V
Finder. Yes. I need to take a look at that as well.
Uh, fruits, I'll read it for benefit of the recording talks about, um prefabs.
Um they say that there is not a future for this right now, But there are plans, uh,
for a publishing version system, which would utilise, uh,
a prefabs could be used to make a prefab system.
Uh, with that,
you'd be able to create a feed for an item
of an auto update when a new version comes out.
Uh, nki says, what's my favourite thing to do and resonate?
Hang out and talk to people I don't I don't wanna like
I don't wanna build stuff in some cases, Like, if I'm in a public world,
I don't necessarily wanna build stuff I spend
all my days building stuff like outside of Reite
for the most part, but like, building stuff, right? I'm
writing code doing those tax forms. Whatever. You know,
uh, we are at time, By the way.
I forgot to say that I was just wittering on about random video games.
I will link to Echo. Um, if anyone wants to play it,
uh, let me know what you think. Um, it's scary. Spooky. Um,
the benefit of the recording.
I'll also read Shifty's response to the whole prefab conversation.
Uh, shifty. She says, uh, I don't like when things update against my consent.
Don't give me the option to easily roll back.
So agreed there on the version control for prefabs.
Only exception to to that she can think of at the top of
her head would be in cases where there are other conflicting things.
A corporate holder for an asset issued AD MC,
a takedown of an asset that would use at times in terms of licence.
Yeah, it'd be interesting. What would it be replaced there?
Let's say like a door gets D MC a,
um,
like
that would make like a gap in your wall like maybe we could
replace that with a generic door or something.
There might be stuff we could do there.
Uh, nookie says, what's your favourite kind of world to hang out on,
uh, unpopular opinion here? World doesn't matter.
It's the people that matter.
And if you want AAA Good case of that
look at the box over on VR chair, right.
That that is always popular because people put
all of the performance problems into their avatars,
and then they have no
no left. They have no performance. Uh, bandwidth left for the world.
So they all hang out in the box.
That's not to say I don't appreciate good worlds and enjoy hanging out in them.
But, like,
if I'm hanging out, the world doesn't matter. Like the people matter.
There are bad worlds to hang out in, um,
something which I hate. Uh, I stamped it out. This is like,
third party off platform drama. Right.
But, uh,
something I hate is a bunch of friends would hang
out in worlds that had secret rooms in them,
and it meant that they could be on, like, blue status on VR chat.
But you couldn't actually find them
cos they'd be in a world and you had to go to that world and then know that you have to,
like, I don't know, rotate the third log in the row and it would teleport you
to,
uh, the Secret Room, and that's where everyone would be.
And if you didn't know, like, which log to push, you wouldn't be able to get there.
Um, but I very politely spoke to everyone about that, and I told them like, Hey,
just just I'd rather you go
just be on yellow orange. Say, if you don't want us to be there, just go on Orange.
Uh, Shifty likes the Rat Star maps where,
like a smaller person hole of the wall is great.
I've made some custom cassette tapes.
The cassette player in there, Um uh, fruits like playing blood in the cocktail.
I hate social deduction games. That's just like, cos my brain's too fast
and I'm too distractible like everyone's doing.
Um, and I know everyone's acting and so I can just like
I probably like won't be successful if I were to play the game,
but I can see through everyone's acting immediately,
and it It just makes the whole thing really weird.
Like if I treat it above in the cocktail game as, like an actual acting piece,
it might be better.
But I'm treating it like I'm playing a game, and then it It's just a weird headspace.
So I don't play it. But it's a very, very good game. I recommend you guys try it.
Uh, that's it, though. Uh, we're out of time.
Um, so I'm gonna go ahead and leave off there.
If you have any additional questions, feel free to direct message me or ping me.
That's only me.
Um, other team members would draught that you use appropriate channels.
I just have that there because, like,
I know some of you are gonna ping people anyway, so it might as well be me.
Um,
it was like, Hey, here's a bug report.
Now I just ping fruits Ping me, and then I'll make a bug report for you.
I will speak to you guys later.