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So for those on the recording, I forgot to hit record for like half a minute, I'm sorry

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for those hearing on the recording, please, please do forgive me.

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Let's get started with questions.

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Tronas asks, I haven't played a good RTS in like forever.

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I used to play Red Bullet 2 a lot with some friends, and my friend had this ability where

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it was just sort of, I don't know, he spawned tanks, like some sort of insect or something.

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Tanks just appeared out of everywhere and I could never keep up.

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I don't like playing RTS games with other players, like I don't really like PvP games

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in general, particularly with friends, and the reason behind that is someone is always

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having a bad time when I play PvP, at least I find that.

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So someone is not doing well, and they're losing, and then therefore they are sad.

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And so I don't like that.

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So I tend to only play cooperative games.

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I can play with, you know, like player versus player games if there's a team, but if there's

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a team, all the people I'm in communication with, all the people I'm playing with have

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to be on the same team, otherwise I get a bit, I don't know, it just feels weird.

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Another RTS game which I really, really wish that someone would own and understand and

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try and play with me, because I don't know, like no one plays the game and it's kind of

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weird, but I have a time traveling RTS game in my library.

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It is an RTS game where you can time travel, and it is insane.

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To list the sort of ways that time travel play out, you can do things, for example,

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build a tank creator, so a vehicle factory, spawn a tank, the tank comes out of the vehicle

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factory, send the tank into the past before the tank was created, and explode the tank

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factory.

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At that point, a regular game engine would just be like, what the hell is going on?

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But this particular time traveling RTS engine figures it out, and it will propagate what's

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called the grandfather paradox through the game until one of the states resolves sort

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of randomly.

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The two states being the tank factory doesn't exist, or the tank doesn't exist, or both

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don't exist, and it will figure it all out, and it's multiplayer as well, and so in a

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multiplayer game, you might be trying to do the usual red alert 2 style thing and build

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up your base, but someone has time traveled their entire attack force back in time and

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is attacking you before you had any units, so you always have to be sending units forwards

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and backwards.

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Acron is the name of the game.

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It is incredibly confusing.

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I have not been able to win a match or even survive.

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It is painfully overcomplicated, yes, but it is very, I don't know, I want to learn

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it, and it died, right, no one wants to play it, but I would love it if there had been

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a little pro series, even if it was just a season, and then we'll be able to take a look

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at pro players doing it.

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Similar to a game called Splitgate, Splitgate's an FPS game where you can make portals, similar

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to the game Portal.

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I think they originally called it like Portal Shooter or something, but they couldn't due

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to branding and terms of trademarks, et cetera, but Splitgate you can portal, and the pro

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players are just constantly portaling, and for Splitgate, I never portal, but Splitgate

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is dead now as well, he does announce that they're not doing updates for anyone.

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Anyway, we should get back on track, we're four minutes in and we've just been talking

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about video games that are not Neos, so let's go ahead and take a look at the next question.

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Waffler, the protogen, says, so I'm trying to make an avatar complete with a Neos, it

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is made up of precisely placed boxes and such.

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I glue it together with a glue tool, but then rotating the thing makes it rotate around

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the center of the world instead of its own center.

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Yeah, don't glue it, the glue tool is not the tool you want to use for that.

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There are a bunch of people inside Neos that do this activity, so speak to Rusty and Sloppy

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McFloppy and they'll be able to help you out, they make avatars entirely inside Neos.

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Origins are very important, so don't glue them, manually pair them together and then

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you won't lose those origin datas, datatars, datutus, daties, what's the plural of data?

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I don't know.

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Anyway, Yoho asks, are there any cool things you can tell us about the work that's happening

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while we wait for this Neos issue to take the time to pass?

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No.

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Moving onwards, Waffler says, much more general question, I'm interested in being a world

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creator and logic user, what other steps I should go through on this journey to be a

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good creator in Neos?

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Do it.

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I know that's a sort of brash and harsh answer, but that's the answer.

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So even the statement, I want to be a world creator, you are a world creator, Waffler,

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I know that you haven't built a world yet, but you are a world creator, there isn't really

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anything that you need to do to become a world creator except to do it.

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There are a bunch of tutorials on my channel and a few other channels that will get you

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started with world creation, I have a full world creation series, it is a little bit

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on the old side now, uses the old UI, but still should be mappable to the new UI, so

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go ahead and take a look at that.

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My advice is start small, in that series we make a world, we put a picnic table and some

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trees in and we save it, and that just gets you around the loader world, add something

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to the world, save the world, teach you to do that.

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a lot more sort of how to create specific thing tutorials.

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Its original name was Puddle Wars or something, they are not, Splitgate is not doing updates,

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they released their final update recently, and they are no longer doing updates.

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They'll do like bug fixes or exploit fixes, but they're not doing any more content.

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What's annoying is the cash shop is still up, so they'll still be doing cash stuff.

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You know, you can still buy whatever their equivalent of e-books is.

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Splitgate coins or something like that, I don't know, who knows.

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Split coins, says Aaron.

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Thank you Mr. Aaron.

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have any more questions, do get them typed up, otherwise we're going to sit here in unimaginable

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I'll just scroll up and down the list looking for any questions I might have missed.

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There are no questions which I have missed.

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Are there any other Neos tutorial channels you would like to add to the list?

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Uh, yeah, there's actually a bunch, so Basement Node is doing a bunch now, even June is.

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Check the tutorials channel and scroll up recently, like I haven't posted that much

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because I've been away for a bit, but you'll see Paddy done one, doesn't sound like a correct

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Paddy did one, I think they've done a couple.

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And then, this is exactly what I was looking for, is Alex from Alaska has this amazing

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list which does need translating, so if you are not technical, please wait for someone

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slightly more technical to translate it.

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But this list here is a list of playlist IDs, and you can put those into YouTube by just

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expanding the URL a little bit, and that will get you to tutorial channels that do exist.

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So yeah, me, Jax did a few back in the day, Fruxy of course has a lot, Coffee, Turk, Circuitry,

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even Alex has done a few, June, NG, Nicole did a few, I forgot Nicole did a few, of course

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that's great.

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And then Svekin did a bunch as well, I like those ones.

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I love this question from Rock and Nook, because it's sometimes difficult to speak about.

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I am not aware of what the Quest Pro is, now of course I am, I've seen the leaks, but as

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a company we can't do anything about the leaks.

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For us to make, integrate new hardware, we need the hardware to be released and given

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to us in some form.

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Now in some cases I'm happy buying the hardware and just integrating it, but if it's not out

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yet, we don't have any plans, it needs to be out before we have plans.

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The general statement on hardware though is that we'll try and integrate as much as we

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can, it does depend on development priorities, hashtag announcements, and like the actual

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hardware itself.

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For example the HP Omnicept, whatchamacallit2, has a mouth tracking camera, but it only provides

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a black and white camera feed, it doesn't do any of the AI that the HTC face tracker

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does which converts those mouth movements into actual data we can use.

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So if we wanted to use the HP Doodaddy, we would have to write our own AI, which is something

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that we probably wouldn't want to do, because at that point we have to maintain it and we

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turn it into basically machine and learning engineers, which is a very complicated Doodaddy

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So once the Quest 2 Pro is officially released and has information about how developers can

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access it, and has developer documentation or integration, then we can go ahead and take

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a look at it.

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Same goes with any hardware, if you read on the bus in a newspaper, LEAK, amazing headset

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costs 50 bucks, does everything, works as well as a Quest Pro and an Index all combined

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into one, and it's got a battery and it lasts infinity.

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It's useless to us until there's actually in our hands details about it out in the world

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that are not leaked.

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Right, moving onwards, I've got a long question here, I will read it out for the purposes

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of the recording from Zygmuntz.

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Zygmuntz says, many users have voiced concern about the state of Neos and the uncertainty

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of its future, with tentative inte-te-te, with tentative inte-te, I'll get through that,

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with tentative interest in continuing to use the platform as normal despite the closed

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nature of ongoing negotiations behind the scenes, I and some others have unfortunately

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been met with much resistance getting news of something on the platform, not only due

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to obvious UX issues, but also the observance of dismissive and sometimes overtly rude behaviour

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of Neos mentors, moderators and Neos team members when addressing these other concerns

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directly, including yourself, oh no, what message can you give to potential Neos players

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to give them hope the platform is in good hands and to give them a platform chance to,

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right, the top-down opacity of the current situation, I don't know, we are doing our

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best to exist in this current scenario, we don't have any additional news about that,

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if you have any complaints about the behaviour of mentors, moderators and the Neos team members,

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please feel free to file a moderation ticket, I will move on.

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Tiki, is there a quick way to layer a second emissive texture to a zyxy material, like

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pile up another material on top, if I have a texture as a pen apparent, you might have

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to add another mesh renderer to do that to like material stack things, I'd have to look

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at the zyxy one again, no, like material stack in the good way, not the bad way, if you duplicate

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the mesh renderer and add a different material to the mesh renderer, that's okay, if you

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put another material on top of the same material in the same mesh renderer, that's material

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stacking, which is on the things to avoid list, has asks, I know this isn't really supported,

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but I heard you could possibly do cloud spawning with our record URLs, Neos rec, Neos DB links,

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which is apparently better, I don't support cloud spawning because it's on the things

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to avoid list, so I won't be answering that, however, Neos rec, Neos DB, we don't care,

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neither of them are better, so if you do it with one, you do it with the other one, as

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it's an unsupported feature, I can't provide support, you can check the things to avoid

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Anadiya says, since we spoke about the facial tracker, do you know if the vive focus 3 facial

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tracker has the idea to work with Neos or does it work, I don't know, because it's vive

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stroke htc, it might use the same library, I don't know, I haven't looked into it yet,

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when new hardware comes out, it takes a little bit to take a look at, so Zlinka says that

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they have information that they're dropping sr-anypal, which is great, because I don't

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like sr-anypal, and they'll use some other format, so that will take longer to integrate,

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and of course, because the current stuffs, we can't integrate, so we'll take a look at

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Let's make sure there's a github issue open with this new hardware coming out.

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If the hardware is released and you would like to see it integrated, please make one

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github issue, please don't make 17 for the same headset, but maybe collate with some

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other people that are interested in it, or if you have your hands on it, let me know.

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For example, I have the EttVR controllers coming, I preordered them back when I had

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an opinion on them, and it's got to the point where it's like, what are those preorders

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where I just want them, like I don't even care if they're good at this point, I just

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want them.

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I stopped subscribing to any kickstarters for that same reason, it was just like, at

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the time I back a kickstarter project, I like it, and by the time it arrives, I've almost

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forgotten what it even is, but seeing as I do have eddy controllers arriving at some

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point in the future, I will get those up to date and integrated, because they'll be in

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my hands.

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It's not, like, it's not Eddy's fault, they've had to contend with the pandemic and also

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some circuit board shortage, not circuit board shortage, component shortage that occurs over

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in China.

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They also had some quality issues with their manufacturers, they had to swap to a different

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manufacturer, I mean, keeping eye on that.

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If there's a standard, that's great, Link, as well, they've updated their link to have

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the Cronus OpenXR standard for face tracking, which is great.

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Moving forwards, Neosmotic says, is there any government to help users optimize worlds

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in Neosmotic?

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There is not an official guide, there is a wiki page that was written, I don't remember

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if I wrote it or some other people did, I could look at the history, but I was on a

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plane when I found it the other day.

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But that's usually for avatars, but it does have some hints that might help.

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I could go through, like, a bunch, but I would be missing a bunch, so don't take anything

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I say as sort of, like, gospel, I actually don't know where I'd even start, I'll have

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to pass on that one and collect my thoughts and actually do a video update that page to

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include some map or world information.

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And then, Neosmotic also asks about screen sharing, are there any hacks available to

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get screen sharing working in Neosmotic?

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I would use the coco.live that the Japanese community are using a lot, that makes it really

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easy to do.

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I think it's in one of their folders, I'll get you the tweet, I know I can find the tweet,

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and if anyone knows the folder, they can go ahead and post that down, is it coco or kovo

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or k-something?

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That's probably the easiest way to do it right now.

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Yeah, delay's gonna be a thing, strangely I'm a little bit of an expert in video streaming,

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for historical reasons, how?

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Anyway, yeah, coco, it would be my recommendation simply for ease of use right now.

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Moving forwards to harmonica-fennacat, is there any way to check the cloud storage that

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we have used up, as in knowing what's using up the storage space?

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Yes, there are a bunch of commands you can use, they are on the Neos bot command, I just

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typed bepis instead of Neos, I have no idea why, into my search to find this bot page.

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Neos bot, Neos wiki, that should get me out.

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So there is the request usage report, ah yes, I think it's got me covered there, so I type

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in bepis, which I know is like a meme phrase, I didn't intend to type bepis, and sometimes

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the keyboard just explodes with stuff that doesn't make any sense.

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Moving forwards to iMarin's question says, speaking of new VR stuff, what's an upcoming

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VR thing, physical or not, that you're very most excited for?

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I'm excited to see this next generation of headsets and sort of innovation that exists,

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I'm liking the fact that all of the headsets coming out now don't have Vive ones, I still

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have no idea what Vive were thinking when they made the Vive ones, I've used them a

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couple of times and hated them, I think that Vive ones probably actually put VR back like

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maybe a year, maybe six months in terms of design simply by existing, and they will also

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have some inertia as VR continues to improve from people that like the ones, or have only

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used the ones to play VR, and now suddenly have to use a more regular controller, I know

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some people like them, if you like them, nothing against you, but seriously, try some other

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controllers.

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Now I get the index controllers are basically a piece of cardboard, if you look at them

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they'll fall apart, but look at every other headset that exists does not use giant donut

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stick controllers, yeah I don't want the sword controllers either, I did see the PS PlayStation

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VR 2 controllers the other day, because I was watching a video about them, and they

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look kind of identical to the Quest controllers except they'd added more guards, it almost

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looked like again a sword, but wasn't a sword, it's probably better tracking fidelity because

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the additional plastic on those, the electronic says Vive needs to share whatever they were

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on when making those, I can tell you, so when Vive originally made the VR headset they were

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thinking more about business and educational uses, where a pointing device similar to what

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you would point at for like a PowerPoint presentation made more sense, it seems odd as a sort of

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random anecdote, but like that's what these office hours turn into sometimes, I was watching

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a documentary about megastructures and how they were built, and it was a documentary

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about how they laid a pipeline from I think it was Norway down to the UK for natural gas,

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and I was just watching it and like fascinated about how they were doing it from an engineering

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perspective, and then there was a guy in a cave system holding something similar to a

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Vive wand, now when I say cave someone's like a cave, like cave is an earlier version of

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virtual reality where you kind of go into a room and it projects on all walls and so

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you feel like you're in the room, it's called CAVE, it stands for something, it's an abbreviation

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I don't know, I'll get you a picture so you can understand why the hell I'm repeatedly

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saying the word cave, like it makes sense, it does if you know what it is, I just Google

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image search cave system and got lots of pictures of cave, of caves, I don't want a picture

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of a cave, there's a cave system, so it's basically like a cube map that you stand in

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and then you point, and the person was using that as a tool to figure out the route for

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the undersea pipe, it was like amazing documentary, I'll try and link it, I watched it late at

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night and I was just sort of blown away by like how complicated that was, I knew that

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pipelines existed, I just didn't know there were A so many and B that it was so complicated,

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as an example here there is a pipe laying ship, and there's only three of them in the

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world, and so if you want a pipeline laid in water you need one of the pipeline ships

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and there are three, and they will load segments on, I don't know how long they are, let's

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just say they're 20 minutes long, they will weld the segments to the pipeline as they're

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coming off the back of the ship, so it's almost like, similar to a spider, I was gonna say

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similar to pooping but that's kind of gross, similar to a spider, it's generating as it's

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going and just like pulling pipe out of its back whilst it's welding them, it's crazy,

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anyway they were planning that with a cave system and it was using a pointing device

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and that reminded me, gadgets are fun yo, let's move forwards, Fecken says, so I think

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Neos can import HDR textures but does Neo support HDR displays work in HDR, I don't

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know, it's kind of a graphics-y rendering question which I'm not very good at, mostly

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because of the color-blind-ish, so I think the better question there is to ask what headset

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or display you're talking about and then we can take a look, we do have HDR in the color

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spaces etc, but I don't know depending on which display you mean, alright next, actually

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do I miss any more, we've got Cocoa, yes, Colza sums it up, Vibe ones were fine for

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one of the first VR systems, agreed, but everyone decided a better direction and Vibe just kept

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selling them, yep, they just kept selling them, they did try I guess with the Cosmos

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controllers, you know the ones that look like the tribal Gameboy SP that everyone had, but

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those are just eight batteries, I remember speaking to Engie about that, they're just

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eight batteries, Lex says there are multiple questions, these tangents are getting out

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of hand, you think, nah, it's my office hours, I'll tangent as much as I like, I'm still

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staying over the time, we've still got four minutes and we'll probably get through them.

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Alright, moving forwards to Zigman's follow up question, file moderation ticket has been

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considered in multiple times to be a cop-out answer to this question, are there any comments

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you can provide to hesitant new users beyond immediately filing complaint to existing users

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concerned about this as well, especially after reserving conversion rate after the VRCEAC

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update, so the file moderation ticket is not a cop-out, the file moderation ticket is,

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if you have behaviour that you don't like, it is inappropriate to talk about it in a

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public setting, and so file moderation ticket isn't a cop-out, it takes that behavioural

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complaint to the appropriate authorities who can then enact on that, I'll also take behavioural

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complaints in direct messages, but if they are about players inside NES, I need them

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to be a ticket, that is just a thing that occurs at companies, you go to any company,

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any sort of behavioural based thing, rural breachy thing, needs to either go in modmail,

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go to a popular community, let's just say path of exile community, everything there

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is done through modmail, take any popular reddit, it's all done through modmail over

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there, and the reason is you take it out of the public eye, it's just standard operating

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procedure for many things, if there is a problem with behaviour, we take it to a moderation

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system, it's not a cop-out, it's just what needs to happen.

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Are there any comments you could provide to hesitant users beyond immediately filing complaint,

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if the first thing that a new user needs to do is to file a complaint, then something's

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wrong there, I'm not quite understanding what's going on there, I see new users coming in

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all the time, they seem to love us, we do lose users after the YALC update, and I knew

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that that would happen, they came, they checked us out, we're a bit like broken and rusty

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right now, and then they went elsewhere, they went where their friends are, that's totally

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fine, I'm going to read your original question again Zygmund, one second, so the behaviour

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might just be because what we have is a lot of users just poking and prodding at us, and

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there's really nothing we can say, if we want to say something, we'll say it, but there's

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nothing that we can say, I could give you a blow-by-blow of every single message that

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I have received from anyone in the internal team about this dispute, but it wouldn't do

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any good, there's nothing that is a good announcement, and so therefore following, again, common

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PR stuff that you'll find at any company, which we sometimes do lax on, because we let

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information go, or we give more information than we should, we're doing the right thing,

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and if you don't like that, then you don't like the public relations community or industry,

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and that's unfortunate, but it's a way to just keep it going, I don't know, do you want

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like an egg timer, or like a pie chart, or like a countdown, I can't give you any information,

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like there's no information, the moment I can give you information, I'll give you information,

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until then there is none, do we have any additional questions in the office hours text chat?

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That's a better question, actually, let me take a look at, make sure I'm not missing

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any questions, Linker says, will you give me new shader processing back on asset variation

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side so I can make funny material orbs in the future, maybe exception to plugins if

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they have been loaded, no, sorry, we really cannot have custom shaders, if you can get

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them to work for the plugin, fantastic, but we can't do any work that would allow them

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even if it's full of plugins, because they will simply just break, they will break.

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And while the Neos Plus community may understand the implications there, some random user that

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you set up with a custom shader on Neos Plus and then suddenly Neos Plus doesn't work,

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they won't understand in the future, and they'll probably misdirect their anger towards the

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Neos community and the Neos team, and they'll say things like, I know that you said that

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this is going to break, and now it's broken, but it's broken and I'm still mad, and that's

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a problem, and so we kind of need to mitigate that a bit, it is problematic, it is sad,

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but like, we're trying to protect you, I don't know why it popped into my head, but you know,

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Undertale popped into my head there, you know, and Toriel's trying to protect you from going

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into the rest of the game, they're like, no, stay here, it's nice here, it's not an apt

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analogy because, you know, through that door would be full custom shaders, I do get the

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complaints that I do understand, it's just like, it would be a, it's a lesser of two

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evils to block it on the server side, basically.

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Moving forward to Zigman's additional question, thank you for rephrasing this one, the question

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was less about the behavior and more about the reassurance and the belief that Neos is

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changing, adapting and moving to the future.

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We are moving into the future as best as we can, negotiations are ongoing between Carol's

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and Fritz's side of the things, there's stuff going on behind the scenes, we have nothing

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to share on that because we are taking the recommendations to not share what's going

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on, mostly from various people that are telling us not to.

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If Neos was not changing, adapting and moving into the future, I would not be here every

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week except for the past two weeks answering your guys' questions.

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I don't know how else to reassure you of this fact.

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I think, yes, I know it hurts and I know it's sad, but it's actually going to happen a

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bunch of times with all aspects of Neos.

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You'll discover something and then it will suddenly not work.

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If you look at the issues I've been making on Neos Public, you'll see examples of that

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everywhere.

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For example, the slice shader that goes through 3D volumes like MRI data, that has to work

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with a uniform unit cube, it cannot work with anything that is long, which is really annoying

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because most CTs and MRIs that we've had are sort of cubular things like the upper chest,

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the head, those are regular shapes, they're approximately a cube, but I have a CT scan

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of an entire body, where of course the length is greater than the width, and we had to do

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some really hacky stuff there.

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I looked at the shader code and got really scared, it's sort of re-marched, so it needs

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a lot of updating to work with non-uniform-ness-ness.

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It's just going to keep happening though, unfortunately.

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If you're looking at integrating a Wii scale, I would sure go for it.

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People still have those.

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In fact, actually I predict that there is a bunch of houses around the world that have

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got Wii scales from Wii Fit, just sort of tucked under their TV stand, and they've been

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there for years and they're gathering dust.

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That's where mine used to go.

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You know, it's sort of like, oh, you used it, and then you tuck it underneath the TV

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stand and it gathers dust.

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Is it under a TV stand though, Stifle?

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When my mother had a Wii, um, strange phrase, when my mother had a Wii, when my mother got

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her Wii, she lost a lot of weight on that, it was great, it was really, really good.

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She didn't put back on the weight, she kept it off, but you know, she was up there all

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Vturexulus says, will there be cake after office hours?

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Unfortunately I don't have cake, I also don't have cheese, I should probably go grocery

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shopping after this.

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With that, there are no additional questions though, so rather than talking about Wii scales

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for the rest of the evening, I'm going to go ahead and leave off here.

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If you have any additional questions, feel free to direct message me, post in the questions

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and help section, I'll take a look at the various YouTube channels, etc.

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I will get back to you next week, I know there was a break for two weeks, I was away, but

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we'll be back for the weekly office hours, and enjoy!