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So, welcome to Office Hours, it is 4pm now, so we're going to go ahead and get started.

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If you have questions, anything you want to know or ask about Neos, please drop it in

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the Office Hours text chat that's above the one that you're currently in, and I'll answer

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it in the order that they appear.

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Any questions that you have.

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We have two currently, so I'll go ahead and get started with those two questions.

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So firstly from Aragibus, I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly, but I don't think I am.

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They said, how does Neos manage the downloaded assets?

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Downloaded assets are stored in what's called your cache.

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If you go to the following link, which I have just been working on today actually, it talks

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about the locations of both of those folders, because sometimes those get confused.

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There's two folders, there's the cache, which stores temporary copies of assets downloaded

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when you're using Neos, and the database, stroke, data folder, which stores a local

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copy of items and things that you are saving.

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So do keep those two changes in mind.

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So they're downloaded to your cache, and that's simply so that you don't have to download

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them again.

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Let's say, for example, you join a Neos session every single day with your best friend, and

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they have a particular avatar.

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You don't want to download the avatar every single day, so we save it to your cache so

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we can pick it up from that cache if you have it, because your friend loads faster.

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That's also why, if you see new people, their avatars will load slower, because you don't

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have them in your cache.

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Moving forward to screen, this question, what can you tell us about future updates?

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I have nothing to tell you about future updates.

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There's a bunch of stuff that is obviously always being worked on.

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For those who are like, the Neos team are on strike.

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If I was on strike, would I really be sat here with 32 people listening to me and answering

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questions?

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We're still doing stuff, but for future updates, we have no announcements.

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Please do check the announcements channel for any updates on that whole mess.

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There we go, we're out of questions.

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And Adia Shark has just trumped that route of questions with a question, which is totally

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fine.

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That's the point of this situation.

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They are asking, does the cache have auto-clearing?

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It doesn't currently, and that does lead to the cache sort of inflating a lot.

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Feel free to clear the cache.

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Do not clear the database or data folder, though, if you can help it.

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Feel free to clear the cache whenever you would like.

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I am aware of other techniques and things that will clear the cache.

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Some people have got, like, batch jobs or sort of scheduled tasks or things like that.

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Some people have got calendar alerts to go clear it.

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Some people even got mods, which they have created or installed, which will do it for

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them automatically.

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It is entirely up to you, though.

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The cache is also stored within a file system within Windows, if you're on Windows here,

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that is designed for temporary files as well.

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So some applications and some parts of Windows will clear that temporary directory for you.

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That's why it's in there.

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The temporary directory is, like, explicitly, if a developer is using that folder, they

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know explicitly that the stuff in there cannot always be guaranteed to be in there.

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That's the point of the temporary folder.

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The other operating systems, such as Linux, et cetera, they also have a temporary directory,

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but I don't know much about those, it's been a while since I've been on Linux.

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I think that is an ideas question, so moving on to arugabuses again.

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They have another question, which is some parts of NEEA cannot be translated, where

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do I report that?

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Go to the NEEA's locale for, like, a GitHub issue, sorry, a GitHub repository, and make

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an issue there.

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Try not to make an issue for, like, everything that can't be translated, because we'll be

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there for, like, forever, but if there's something there that you feel would be good to be translated,

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do put it there.

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Things that are not suitable to go there are things like logic nodes, we don't have the

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capability to translate those yet, but if there's just, like, a loose floating string

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that exists somewhere, we can probably get that translated.

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A good example being, I was working on the just months and months ago, but I was working

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on the create directory dialogue, that's when you, like, create a directory in your inventory,

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and I realized it was not translatable, and it was easy.

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It was, like, another couple of lines of code to expose translation strings for that, so

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I did that.

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I did that because I was touching that code.

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So do keep that in mind.

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It's not, like, intentional, it's just, like, to update it such that it's translatable,

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we have to touch it, and if it's a complicated string, such as logics, then we need to do

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a lot of work to make it translatable, hence why logic is not translatable.

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Translation gets complicated sometimes.

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Moving forwards to Cole's question, which says, what do you think of user management

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systems, logic that puts each user in their own slot and tries to keep things they spawn

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within them, do you advise against having these pre-installed in published worlds?

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I advise you have them in pre-installed in published worlds, they're fantastic at controlling

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the craziness which is people's disrespect of your world.

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That's truly what it is sometimes.

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I mean, it's not usually, but, like, sometimes it is.

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Like, I go in worlds sometimes, and there's just, like, a absolute tidal wave of crap

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in the world that people have just left and forgotten.

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Clean up after yourself, please.

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If you spawn a gun that you're no longer using, don't just drop it in the world.

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Clean it up.

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For creators as well, the best thing you can do to be compatible with those systems is

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to go ahead and use the local user space node rather than the root slot node whenever you're

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re-parenting something.

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It is literally a, you won't notice the difference from a creating point of view 99% of the time.

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Just swap uses of the root slot node with the local user space node and you'll be good.

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Local user space node refers to the slot which a user is parented to and not the root slot.

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So if you created a world management system where Colza spawns in the world, they get

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their own slot, they get parented to it.

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If Colza's object uses parent with root slot, it would parent, I don't know, weapons, arrows,

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grenades to the root slot.

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But if it used local user space, all of their weapons, arrows, grenades, et cetera, would

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be parented to the Colza user slot, enabling a world management system to clean up effectively

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once they were gone.

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And then, again, just for reiteration, clean up after yourself, please, like, please.

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I feel like I should, like, meme it a little bit more, like, get a 3D model of a toy chest

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and just, like, put it in the world and, like, put a user management system in there and

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detect when there's more than, like, 20 items abandoned in a user's slot, like, spawn a

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toy chest and be like, it's time to tidy up.

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Like, with a gif of me waggling my finger or something.

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It's time to tidy up, poor waggles finger.

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Or you'll go on the naughty step.

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Moving forwards, Zafford being says, dumb question.

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There are zero questions in the entirety of this Discord which are dumb.

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If you have asked the same question every single day for an entire year, someone will

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answer you.

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It's not dumb.

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Like, Neos is complicated.

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We all learning together.

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Let's make sure that we get that correct.

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The question that they're asking is, do you need to port forward to stream to Twitch inside

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of Neos?

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No.

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You don't need to port forward to do most things inside Neos.

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You can change some of your network settings to be a little bit easier to join to from

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other users, but we do have systems in place that mean you don't really need to port forward

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at all.

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If you're having a particular issue with Twitch-related streaming stuff, please go ahead and ask it

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more directly.

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Rigibus has another question here, which is, is the free 25GB storage still available for

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people who make locales?

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I don't know.

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I noticed yesterday that the locale repository had a little bit of neglect going on there,

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which is understandable because we're not currently doing updates, but what kind of

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like tugged at my heartstrings, if you like, to make me kind of fix that yesterday was

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I noticed that two separate people had translated properly, as in a manual translation rather

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than a machine translation, the game into Chinese.

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And I thought, if we've got two people doing that substantial work, then we just need to

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handle it.

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So I merged all applicable mergers that could be merged just so that we didn't have that

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happen again.

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I don't want people doing potentially weeks' worth of work that we're then accidentally

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ignoring.

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Even if we don't intend to sort of make an update right now, we can at least say like,

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hey, the Chinese translation has been done once, maybe work together on improving it,

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but don't do it separately.

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But it seems like that's what actually happened.

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Two people separately did the translation from scratch and I'm just like, ah, that shouldn't

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be bad.

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That shouldn't happen.

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That's, that's like a waste of time.

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Oh, they'll, they'll resolve it, I'm sure.

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All right, moving onwards.

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We have a question from Thermo.

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Is there a BeeHaptics integration?

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Yes.

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BeeHaptics is entirely integrated into the game.

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You just need to make sure that the BeeHaptics software is on and running, that you've tested

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it.

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You've got buzzes on your BeeHaptics stuff before you launch Neos and then it will be

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in there and working.

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The problem that you might have with the BeeHaptics integration though is that not a lot of stuff

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inside Neos supports it from a development point of view inside the game.

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Inside the game, objects need to basically say, hey, I would like to be BeeHaptics.

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I would like to be a BeeHaptics dut ad.

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Please buzz haptics when they come near you.

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It should by default work with other people's hands so they can like touch poke, you know,

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prod you, et cetera.

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But you can also make objects work with BeeHaptics.

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If you'd like an example of that, I have tutorial videos on my channel or you can go ahead and

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visit Sojourner's Island made by the Neos team, which has a bunch of haptics integrations

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that are, you know, it's actually an event to sort of showcase that we had BeeHaptics.

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It is not OSC and we do not have OSC support.

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Moving forward, Specs says, I would very much like to add port forwarding to my router to

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make it easier for users to join me.

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What port range would I need for that?

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It's not port forwarding.

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It's a NAT type.

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If you go to the wiki, I'll get the link in just a second.

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The networking information page has some information about that.

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It's just making sure that your NAT settings are good.

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We are like, it's 2022.

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No one should be like manually port forwarding unless I don't know they're playing like Half

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Life or something.

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There's a setting right at the bottom there of recommended here we go American versus

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British in my brain.

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I live in America, but I'm British.

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Recommended router configuration or if you're American, recommended router configuration.

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Both is like good and fine.

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Strangely enough, British people will call the tool thing and you know that you do for

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woodwork or whatever, the router there, we will call that a router.

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For anything else, it's root or router.

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It's very confusing.

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Yeah, I went to a woodworking class once and we got that, the router, and I'm like, oh,

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okay.

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And I was very confused when people started talking about routers, I'm like, why do people

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plug in this woodworking tool to their Internet?

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That doesn't make any sense.

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Very interesting, though.

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Moving forwards, Stifle says I was curious about the answer to this question back on

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October 21st, 2019, oh, deary me, let's get out some sepia-toned cameras and stuff.

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You made a tutorial with segment mesh and slot segment mesh and asked why can't slot

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segment mesh be collapsed into segment mesh and later stated that would be a question

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for the NEOS team, since you are part of the NEOS team after the video was made, what was

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the answer to the almost three-year-old question?

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There are a lot of cases where accidentally for in some cases very valid reasons, but

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for some cases just sort of like either a combination of forgetful reasons or just time

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pressure, different things have been created that really don't need to exist and they need

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to be sort of collated back together.

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I was trying to think of that word, collate, I was thinking staple, but no, staple and

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collate, collate is the word I was looking for.

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So slot segment mesh and segment mesh are a good example of that.

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As are our myriad of PBS shaders, Geens wants to eventually collapse all of those into one

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PBS shader with all of the settings exposed in a way that makes sense, such that we don't

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have like we have so much duplicate code for PBS rendering in our shader files, it's sort

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of crazy.

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Another example where I want to do it is the axis aligner aligner components.

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They all work completely differently from a technical point of view, I mean from a functional

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point of view as well, they do different alignments, but from a technical point of view, it seems

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none of them can agree about the best way to update themselves, the axis aligner does

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it in a way that is not performant, the object grid aligner does it in a way that is performant

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or isn't, I can't really remember.

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It would be great if we could just sort of collapse all that together into an aligner

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component, which then had a method that would also allow additional methods for alignment

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to be sort of written well.

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That's a really good example of sort of refactoring where we talk about that sometimes, it's like

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what if this was one component that had a method of alignment and then it'd be a lot

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easier to sort of establish that the behavior was consistent across all of those components

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rather than vastly different because they all work differently for some reason.

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Moving forwards, Zafford's got back to me with a question.

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They say when I go to a WebSocket plugin and try to connect it to Neos, it all says disconnected

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even though as far as where the ipm port is correct, ah okay, double check which version

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of the WebSocket plugin that you are using.

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There is a complicated matter that is unfolding, basically OBS WebSocket the plugin just rolled

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over to version 5 and version 5 is not compatible with Neos currently.

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That is like probably like the highest priority in terms of like my tutorial item that I'll

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be fixing when I'm able to because 5 is incompatible with earlier versions of the OBS WebSocket

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Additionally, for added insults to injury, OBS Studio versions which are greater than

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I don't know right now I think it's like I don't know the number but they will by default

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include OBS WebSocket in them so if you have downloaded and installed OBS Studio from the

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website like within the past sort of few weeks it'll probably have OBS WebSocket 5 installed

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in it so you'll go ahead and have to replace that with a version before 5 and then it will

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work if it's 5 or later it will not work.

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If you are running OBS on the same computer that you are running Neos on to use it you

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don't need to change the port or IP address settings I have not changed those since 2019

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they just work.

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You also don't need port forwarding because if it's a local connection doesn't matter

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it's just like oh that's me that's my computer whoop and it just connects it doesn't need

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to go out to the network.

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All right moving onwards Dark Witch Dreams welcome to the community because they only

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just recently joined that's why I'm saying welcome.

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Sometimes I should read and then answer but sometimes I just like read and answer at the

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same time.

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They hope that this question is okay for the conversation there are not many questions

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that are not okay for the conversation if they're not okay it's not like you've done

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something wrong it's just like hey I'm not the right person to ask but I'm sure that

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this question I haven't read yet is perfectly fine.

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They jumped into Neos they haven't jumped into Neos yet and the big reason is just how

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large and overwhelming it seems on top of the social anxiety is there somewhere you

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can point me that or I should start to have it be less overwhelming yes a good way to

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start and not be overwhelming is to make a couple of sacrifices but these are good sacrifices

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so sacrifice one is pick an avatar that's already in the game don't think about importing

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your VRChat avatar if you've come from VRChat or whatever avatar just pick one that's in

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the game and then number two is don't build.

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mode right you'd go to the start of Neos and you'd hit play and say like I want to build

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I don't want to build the really only difference between those two versions of the game would

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be we would disable the ability for you to open up the building UI but strangely you

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can do that yourself with a mentality shift right you can say I don't want to build therefore

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I won't spawn the inspector tip or the logics tip I won't spawn those and I don't want to

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build and then you can just sit in front of a mirror if that's what you're doing watch

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videos whatever you want to do you don't have to build and then that will make it viral

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vastly vastly less overwhelming you pick an avatar that's already in the game and then

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you just don't build and then it should be less overwhelming because you don't need to

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learn anything there you should you should just you know chill out watch videos and hang

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out with people you may have some difficulty finding open sessions that are not technical

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that's something that I wish our community culture could change about majority sessions

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you go into someone if they're not talking about technical matters to do with Neos they're

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talking about technical matters to do with just like other stuff you know go in there

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and they're just like well I heard the Nvidia 380 is better than the 390 like the parallelization

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of the neutron floating into the flux capacitor and you're just like yeah I'm inebriated and

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I just want to like lie in front of a mirror and watch videos like it's sometimes difficult

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to get that kind of setup so there you go at the point where you want an avatar set

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up if you know that you're going to struggle or be overwhelmed it might be worth sort of

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booking time with a mentor there's no official way to do this but if you find someone with

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a funny green badge in the discord or in game you could say like hey Tuesday 3 p.m would

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you help me get the avatar set up for me and do most of the work for me because I don't

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want to get overwhelmed and they'd be happy to sort that out right they'll need some files

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from you of course to get it done but like they'll take care of it for you there's always

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two ways of learning in Neos and it's great if you're explicit with a mentor about your

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intentions there I've seen both of them and especially with the recent sort of uptick

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in players there are players who are like can you help me set up my avatar and show

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me how to do it or can you help me set up my avatar because I want to be comfortable

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in Neos those are two different scenarios like they don't want to know how it works

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they just want an avatar that they're comfortable with and then once they're comfortable maybe

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they'll have an opportunity to learn but they don't necessarily need to have the opportunity

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to learn they don't necessarily want to learn and both of those are okay usually in other

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circles such as like learning programming that's not okay like if you went to like I

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don't know a learning programming community on discord and you're like could someone write

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code for me would be like no because you won't learn but like if it's your avatar totally

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understandable you just want to feel comfortable inside the game someone will help you out

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we have lots of insight from from from mentors there holy's fantastic froppy who is a mentor

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and a moderator so they've got like all the not as many badges as me but like all the

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badges they're very helpful as well as link is very helpful specs as well like everyone's

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helpful here just just ask questions yeah yeah yeah you've not managed to complete the

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collection there froppy if you get on the team you'll still be missing one yeah it does

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it does unfortunately sound like jumping in is the best start but just jump in with with

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that mindset right the mindset being i don't need to build and i can use one of the existing

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avatars and then just like have an explore uh no you don't uh learn things you should

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go is a good way of looking at or don't but if you just like i don't want to learn totally

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fine it's totally fine uh i reckon best has another question here which is what is the

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mobile friendly toggle it's right i'm giggling not because of the question but because of

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of that checkbox um so that checkbox is uh basically like a little sign um that has no

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validation or features or functionality about it at all if you turn that on you are basically

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raising a little sign that says i'm a mobile friendly session and whether you actually

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are a mobile friendly session or not um doesn't matter so it's the equivalent of basically

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you know standing outside of a coffee shop and saying we have free coffee and then you

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go inside the coffee shop and they don't actually have free coffee it just it doesn't mean anything

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uh we did want it to mean something originally it just it just didn't you know uh it is crazy

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there it's also sort of paired with checkboxes that actually do do stuff do do lol for example

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the unsafe mode checkbox will enable unsafe mode and that does actually make stuff happen

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um for those who are worried about unsafe mode it's quite difficult to make unsafe mode

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not safe counter to its name but the moment you check unsafe mode it will force your session

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to lan only um you can thank me for unsafe mode um i caused it to happen let's see what

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we've got uh for other questions here oh gina hello uh i've been loading sessions that are

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taking a lot more time uh than a year ago any recommendations or tips to optimize world

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loading in assets near spawn first there is nothing um that you can do to optimize uh

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the order in which my assets load in right now um if you're having slowness we do actually

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have an issue open for assets loading slowly um there is a sort of community fix for that

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which is to just clear your cache but i don't understand why that makes assets load faster

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but hey maybe it'll work for you um but that might speed it up but no we have no load control

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right now um even if you have stuff like disabled checkbox wise or like culling zone wise it's

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still got a load it's just it's a problem we got to like fix it somehow later uh arabis

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if you asked 500 000 questions i would answer them all and be totally happy with that so

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don't don't don't feel bad about that this is this is question time if you answer you

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ask one fantastic if you ask 50 fantastic the poop poop poop poop poop uh that is the

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cash slinker if it's in local temp solarax neos that's the cash oh if you're forcing

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the cache path argument um sometimes the app path the other one will still refer to the

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old cache path in its saved settings which means that even though you've done cache path

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it won't listen to it which is really annoying um and actually caused me to just rewrite

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the uh relocate neos folder guide again because i'm like wait a moment the only real way to

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make sure that data path and cache path are listened to in their entirety is to nuke everything

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and start again both cache and data that's the only way to make sure that they are listened

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to so that's probably what's going on there with slinker's issue um it looks like a rigor

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versus question about scaling working on desktop is uh answered uh froppy says it's control

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shift and mouse wheel for scaling enabled that will scale you on desktop um i'm seeing

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a lot of comments on my youtube videos about this as well um so i want to state it as well

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there should be no reason why features work strangely between our platforms that aren't

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stated somewhere so i had a comment which is like i guess publishing worlds on linux

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doesn't work no no publishing worlds on linux should work if it doesn't that's a bug please

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provide a log if you're listening i did comment on the the youtube comment with that as well

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and then someone else said is it known that logics doesn't work on the dix i'm like no

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no logics should work on the dix if you're having an issue please let me know let's figure

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it out um froppy says the arugopus uh said that scaling objects doesn't work only scales

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one time and stops working well i'm on desktop right now so if you just give me a second

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um i will go ahead and see if i can reproduce that so i'm gonna go ahead and i'm gonna create

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a new 3d model box and i know you can't see this i'm just describing what i'm doing to

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fill dead a time and i'm moving it around and i've made it smaller with scale and i'm

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letting go of it and i'm going to grab it again and i'm making it bigger if you can

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describe the exact sequence of button pushes you're doing it might be that it also might

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be uh just something to do with the actual object that you're scaling do remember that

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certain objects cannot be scaled by design it's actually a checkbox that you can enable

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on the object and uh if it's not enabled there's usually a good reason for it although sometimes

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there isn't a reason for it and someone's just forgotten to check that on let's move

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forwards um agro force says is there a way to drag stuff around in your dash in screen

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mode i don't know i've never been able to get ui edit mode to work in screen mode so

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i'm just like i don't know uh eastern if eastern's here they might know they're the desktop national

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treasure i'm going to tag them there we go um i i yeah let me just without a mod right

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the mod didn't exist and i'm pretty sure pretty sure eastern was doing about mod all right

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anyway moving forwards um that's that question's answered uh zacutole says are graphics lowering

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mods safe i don't know i am reasonably certain that they are but i cannot say that they are

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because mods are unsupported by the neos team if that makes sense i would suggest asking

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the neos modding community what they think um but i can't answer that officially uh zafod

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says one more thing how do i get the screen to pop up in obs uh i think froppy answered

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that with the like tools web socket server settings uh i don't really know what you mean

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by screen though um if you can clarify if you mean the game screen just use like a game

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capture or window capture whichever works for you i alternate between game capture and

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window capture because obs is fun as our window capture standards like for example if you

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try and capture chrome and you're playing media on netflix like regardless what tab

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is netflix will just like blank out or something or stop playing or spotify is like you're

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recording i'm gonna pause it's just like guys what are we doing and then there's like hdcp

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that's the thing that like makes protected content go through a hdmi driver and i'm just

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like ah stop making standards okay let's get back on track to some sort of sense of normalcy

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back to questions um magic says what would you say is the most under used um undervalued

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feature that should be highlighted to new users um honestly not building like i know

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we just talked about it uh with the sort of you know questions of being overwhelmed but

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not building like it's very common for the mentality to be okay you set up your avatar

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now you need to start building which then leads into the mentality of when i've started

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building i'll make myself a custom multi-tool and a custom inspector and i'm just like no

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go play games go experience stuff go play cabin of the seasons go look at the neos

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fester it's running by the way there's a festival running made by the japanese community it's

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amazing there are booths there are worlds go look at it uh you know you don't need to

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build i guess would be the most underutilized feature of of of neos um and don't make a

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custom multi-tool just use the standard tools please uh so safe what is now further clarified

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what source does the in-game neos camera use in sources on obs it doesn't um okay so all

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the obs um all the obs integration that we have inside neos does is integrates with obs

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web socket to send a signal saying start recording stop recording or start streaming stop streaming

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that's all it does um the camera itself when you enable the mirror display mode what it

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will do is it will take the camera's view and it will mirror that to the the on-screen

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um ui so if you have your headset on enable mirror to display peek under your headset

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through the nose hole like you all do i know you'll do it peek through the nose hole and

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look at your screen you'll see that it's displaying the camera view and not your view it separated

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those two and then in obs you just capture using uh game capture or window capture the

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window of neos and then it will display whatever the camera has recording inside obs and that's

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how the magic works right um and it's only available like some people like why doesn't

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mirror display work in desktop it's because it would be incredibly jarring to try and

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make that work in desktop it might be possible if neos could like i don't know spawn two

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display windows of neos and then one would be the mirrored and one wouldn't be the mirrored

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and then you'd capture the mirrored one and play on the non-mirrored one but at that point

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you're like running the game twice i mean you kind of already are doing with mirrored

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to display but like the the glory about how it works is because you've got a headset on

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your face that's got screens inside it well usually a screen sometimes two screens i never

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remember which which headsets use two screens and which headsets use one screen that's just

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sort of got a black bar in the middle that you can never see because it's behind the

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lenses but whatever um that's that question done uh alexis are there any secret menus

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or buttons that mods or devs have in neos there are many um none of which i can remember

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right now i guess there's one like the world browser has some extra stuff if you're on

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the team um which is you know subject to change but i can um remove a world from the world

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browser or feature a world or add a tag if the world's having difficulties in searching

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from the world browser um there's one other place but i can't even remember where it is

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none of the like stuff that the team have access to in game is like scary or secret

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or you know can't be told it's all like the stuff that we should have access to and permissiony

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stuff um for example and i'm going to say this on record and i'm also going to say prove

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me otherwise if you think so um the team including mods do not have access to private sessions

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and the reason behind this is because when you start a private session we don't tell

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the neos cloud where it is and you can verify this using wire shark or like a man-in-the-middle

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proxy whatever you want like there is no information other than you are in a private session we

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don't know where that private session is for us to join that private session we need to

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first of all know where it is so like what ip address or setting it's on and then we

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also need like an invite tokeny thing which again you can validate using wire shark right

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i don't want to see in like two or three years people going like yeah but like mods and team

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members can join your private sessions go validate it get wire shark get a man-in-the-middle

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proxy prove it like we know that you're in a private session but that's the equivalent

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of me saying to froppy hey i'm at home right now so froppy now knows i'm at home but they

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don't know what i'm wearing or what i'm eating or what i'm looking at or what i'm doing but

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they know that i'm in my house so we know that you're in a private session but we don't

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know that anything's happening there or where it even is which is the same froppy doesn't

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know where i live unless froppy does in which case froppy please don't don't like please

438
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don't please don't attack me no anyway moving onwards back to some sense of normalcy again

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i think they do stale take a 360 preview and um sorry spec said private sessions don't

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take a 360 preview i think they still do and the reason behind that is uh depending on

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which way you get the invite you'll be able to see that 360 view uh before you actually

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join and then even in worlds that you're in which are private sessions they appear in

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the world browser just for you and you'll be able to see uh 360 previews of that world

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just for you because you have an invite in the world browser or more specifically anyone

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that has an inviting capability of joining that session should should she should see

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in the world browser but again yeah if you'd like to to challenge that the wire shark man-in-the-middle

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proxy ask the modding community have a look uh moving forwards arriba says is it possible

448
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to edit uv maps inside neos no um mesh data is mostly static there are exceptions to that

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for example you can remove blend shapes by baking your blend shapes do you do baking

450
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your blend shapes will improve the performance of your avatar more than any other thing particularly

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if you're a rex avatar um so please do bake your blend shapes but uh that edits mesh data

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is what i mean um there's other stuff that you can do to edit mesh data such as like

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fiddling normals recalculating tangents stuff like that by the way for three models there

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what's the difference between normal and a tangent i have no idea anyway um you can't

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edit uv maps moving forwards to screeners question someone friends list had the username

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changed but i still see their old name on my contacts this other people see their new

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name um that is probably a quirk for how the friend system works um please open a github

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issue on that one it will be quite low priority but it's important that we have stuff like

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that logged so we can take a look at it i know that the uh like the other one is like

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sometimes the first message that you receive from someone will say it's coming from 1970

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and people always joke that's just like a bug with like how you receive that first message

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and how it tries to get the data to you as soon as possible that means that it doesn't

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have a valid date so it displays the default date which happens to be the first date that

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can exist in computing which happens to be in 1970 for those who are unaware your entire

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computer right now every single computer including your phone and like if you've got an internet

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of things thermostat it's also doing it it's counting the number of seconds since a specific

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date in 1970 because we decided that's how time works i don't particularly know why it

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was 1970 but that's how computers work when you synchronize your clock which is something

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you need to do to make sure that neos connects correctly what you do is you ask another server

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usually an ntp server but that basically means network time protocol but basically you ask

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another server how many seconds has it been since 1970 and that computer says it's been

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this many seconds and you go oh shit i had this my bad and then you adjust it that's

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how time synchronization works it's it's silly also uh time synchronization breaks in 2038

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but don't worry about it like there'll be a solution by 2038 january 1 1970 yeah i couldn't

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remember if it's january 1st yeah it's january 1st 1970 it's called unix time um it is it

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is fun i used to be a timekeeper uh lex says the windows epoch is different it is different

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but still counting number of seconds since a specific date yes procedural meshes are

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different as they just says uh down there that's uh another example uh nat says is the

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position of the 360 preview of findable slots so i could say throw a box or something over

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it no um if you don't have any of the thumbnail components uh there's a video tutorial on

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my channel about how to use those um then what it does is it asks each user in the world

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to take a 360 periodically and that usually comes from your head or near your head i can't

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remember which and then each person in the session is taking that picture and then it

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um the host of the session asks all the users in the session hey who has the most recent

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headshot and then someone goes me pick me and then that's the session thumbnail unless

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you use the the components in which case it's it's a slot that you can find i think that's

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all the questions we have uh lucas has a uh answer to the normal versus tangent thing

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so thank you so much for this because i i didn't i could of course google it but i'm

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in office so thank you for for looking it up for me so the normal of the mesh is the

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forward channel blue of the normal map the tangent of the mesh is the right channel red

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of the normal map there's also by tangent which is the up green channel but this is

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the last one that but this last one can be calculated by a cross product of the others

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yep i understand that excellent thank you thank you lucas i believe that's all the questions

494
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we have uh if you have any further questions or danger you are the last person who can

495
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type a question log group has confused me a lot yeah me too i don't think it works correctly

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i think we need to do some more work with it um other people have used it like it has

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um like uh has moods i was trying to think of the word like it has nuances that's the

498
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word i was thinking i ended up with like it has moods a lot of group is like i might work

499
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i might not i need to like look up maybe document this existing behavior so we can understand

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what needs to happen like if you were to go speak to fruits and be like oh what you need

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to do the log group he'd like launch into like a very complicated explanation of plans

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he has for that component but i want to get the current behavior sorted so that we understand

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what it can do today with that i believe we're done so um i'm gonna go ahead and end here

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if you have any further questions please go ahead and direct message me them or put them

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in the questions and help section do remember that we're all here to help you look for a

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green question mark above someone's help uh someone's help above someone's head they will

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help you out greatly and uh above all else clean up after yourself in a while thank you

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bye