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So welcome to office hours we're gonna go ahead and get back on track and get over to the questions after talking about dishwashers

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Pain products if you want to hear the pre office hours chat arrive five minutes early. I talk about random stuff

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So we're gonna go ahead go through questions. There are some questions in the chat

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I'm gonna go ahead and check the pre question sheet because I was linking that around to certain someone and

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They might have dropped some stuff on there and I didn't check it last week. So I need to go ahead and check it

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Oh, there is a question here, but it is not by that person. So we have a question on the sheet from

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Neils who says could the app Neos the universe be re-uploaded to the store

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I've not really done couple of guys report issues

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I believe they're referring to the earlier version of Neos universe that was put on the quest or by fruits

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I don't know the status of that or anything about that

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Suffice to say it won't probably be touched for the foreseeable future due to the ongoing

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I'm gonna go ahead and mark that question as resolved and we'll get on with the questions that exist in the chat

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So it's growing up through the chat to look at questions egg roll faces. What is your favorite snacking cheese recommendations?

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There's 60 seconds or less. I don't answer questions about cheese. It's kind of a meme

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So we'll move on

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Pyronic says have you heard of git work trees? I've just recently discovered them seems useful for working on different features block branches

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Yes, I've used them extensively over the 10 12. I don't know I'm getting old a bit

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Years of my career I've used them extensively

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They are great when you use them. There are a lot of stuff that you don't need

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There's this amazing flow called git flow and everyone's like, oh, yes use git flow

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It is beautiful blah blah blah blah, and it's just really complicated

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The important thing to do though is to start a branch when you think that the master branch might get dirty

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And that includes when you're working with other people

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So if you've got multiple people working in your project always be on a branch, right?

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the master branch should be what everyone is pulling from and everyone else should be on their own branches and I don't care what they're

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Named just make sure that they name something a branch should only have commits associated with one individual feature on it

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Don't do I see some people do which is when they start work in an organization

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Which is just like their name and then they put all of their commits on there and periodically they'll do pull requests and like merge

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That back in that is so messy make a branch for each feature, please

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I realized I was calling it the old master branch name most git places

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I've now renamed the master branch to main apologies for that one. That's still affecting me because some older repositories

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Unable to be updated and so it's just like I have no idea

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But if you make a github repo these days by default the main branch will be called main rather than master

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Let's move on. Oh, if you want to know what we do at Neos as well, we do do branches

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I am whilst freaks was the only developer branches were uncommon, but I've been teaching freaks the way of branches

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I've also been teaching freaks the way of atomic commits atomic commits our way. Basically each commit that you make to a git

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Repository needs to be sort of as isolatable as possible an example of this might be

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Commit one for a feature is introducing a new file like a new file to the code base

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It just introduces the new file and some of the basic building blocks for that file

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It doesn't use that file anywhere. It just introduces that file and then the next commit might be adding that file to other stuff

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So it's actually integrated or stuff like that. It's it's depends on the exact patterns and development of the language of doing sometimes

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But it's good to just make it like easy for people to see what an individual commit does

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Oh and squash merge when you merge stuff on github

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Moving onwards away from high technical programming stuff because I know you're here for the Neos stuff

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We'll go on to the next question. Rusia says, can you describe how cache hit miss system works?

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What's the primary identify? Is it based on idea hash or random value? Don't actually know. I'll go ahead and

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Add that one to my list of questions. I just can't answer as parts of Neos. I just haven't looked at

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And that's one of the cases I did look at the the way that we did. So we've like really extensive code that deals with

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username clashes

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So it's common for you know, people who are just writing a system

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They're just like hey if this username equals this other username, you can't register it, right?

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You have the same name like no one can register. Fruxius is their username on Neos. We go a step further than that though and

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We will take a look at how Fruxius is represented in

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Other alphabets so we take a look at the Russian alphabet the various Japanese and Korean alphabets

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And Chinese as well just to make sure that like when we translate those names into different alphabetical systems

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There aren't any clashes as well. That's actually really cool. If you want to pronounce

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Like a Japanese phrase, I'm not good at Japanese

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I can put it through that system and it tells me what their name is

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You know, it's really cool

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romanization of that which was really cool wrote some tests for that the other day as well because I was messing with it and

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So I went to like a name database website and chucked a bunch of names in

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Okay, so next question for electronics, which is a great opportunity for me to like make a very clear point

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So electronic says to add to this. How does clearing the cache not mess badly with a database?

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So they're actually two folders. There's that data location and there's that cache location

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They're often confused or overlapped or referred to as the same thing and it causes problems both in support and dealing with those support

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It's just when people give like solutions to problems or instructions. Sometimes one will be deleted and not the other one

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just like a big database the literal definition of the word of like everything that you've basically seen or saved in in this and

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Today, I'm sorry. Um, and so syncing those across is very difficult

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I have only once had a corrupt cache and only once had a syncing issue and both occurred during the VR chat boom

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But I don't know everyone else seems to have those difficulties all the time and I don't I do apologize for them

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I want to see what we can do to improve those when we're able to

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Now the cache though is just like randomly downloaded stuff

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And if you delete that it's not as bad because you're not messing with the database you're messing with cache

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You know how else to answer that question what I wanted to do though is say hey, please stop deleting them when you know

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Encountering a problem in computing and many other places actually you have three choices

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All that does is delete the problem

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It will just you know flush all the guts of the computer flush everything out of the memory

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Close any applications and restart them. So it just deletes the problem

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So if a problem occurs after restarting it often support desk agents will be like could you try restarting again?

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And I'm like, no, like that's not gonna do anything then they'll move on to could you try reinstalling it?

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Which again is just deleting the problem that flushes the guts of the computer with all the files that were involved in that particular

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Application and reinstalls it I would always rather that you do ignoring the problem or fixing the problem rather than deleting the problem

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Ignoring it's totally fine

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Like for example, my windows lock screen has had the same photo on it for like six years

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And I hate that photo because it's the first thing I see every morning, right?

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I haven't had coffee yet and I see that lock screen photo

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I want to change it, but I can't remember how because I

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Prevented windows from doing its thing where it's like here's the photo of the day. It's from a quaint beach in Hawaii, and it's beautiful

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I didn't want to see that stuff. I'm just like stop doing that

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But I didn't realize that would lock it down to one photo that's been there for six years, but I'll fix it when I can

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So please follow all the troubleshooting steps through in order and if Nia's team member then tells you to delete or clear your cache or

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Mentor does or whatever etc. That's fantastic

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Then make sure you do the previous steps first because you'll actually learn something you'll learn something when you fix programs you you learn something

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I had an issue with I remember something to do like a plug-in

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Fixed that by actually making a fork of that plug-in releasing on my github because I'm like hey

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I learned a lot doing that moving forwards. Oh, I don't mean to shut you down egg refers

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It's just like we're meant to be talking about Neos and then the meme started of like yeah cheese is my thing

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But I didn't talk about it. And so now it's just

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So Tiki says I've been I've said I've seen many export formats for avatars

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But I don't know much about them as the one that could be useful to be able to import my avatar back into other

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avatars that are important to Neos are

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For lack of a better word garbled from an outside of Neos perspective. That isn't something that will be permanent

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Maybe there'll be a way to do it in the future. But right now it is not it's actually a strange

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Security feature as well. It's like an unintentional security feature, right?

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You can't export the avatar to other platforms without losing rigging information

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So you lose bone data, and I believe you use what lose weight painting as well

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So if you export it back out, you'll just get like a static mesh, which then you'd have to rereg so that that's cool

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That might change in the future. I am struggling here. Where's my water? Okay, I should be less vocal when it comes to dying now

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Yeah, that may change in the future. We'll see

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Interoperability is of course the big buzzword when it comes to your metaverses

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I'm moving forwards to Alex from Alaska. I'm gonna upload some photos. I did share these in

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Mentor Discs yesterday because it was topical and front-of-mind. I am working with

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SHFR, that's

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user name of SHFR, but their actual name is Hamish and

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We do science together and our science resolves around whatever the hell you can think of that is not video game related

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So this was my view of a Neos world yesterday, and if you can guess what I was doing

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Fantastic. If you don't know what I was doing, you'll have to wait until the end of this officer as well

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I'll tell you. There we go. I'll give you some time to play some games. See if you can figure it out

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A few others you're excluded from that because you know you were there

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So I'll leave that at the bottom of the scroll buffer and come back to once I've got through the rest of the question

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Mystic says how is documentation regarding the recent events been going? I've seen some really useful videos from both the team and users

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But other than pre-planned videos are there videos you think would be

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This is like two questions there, so like documentation regarding the recent events is difficult

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We don't want to put out any more information that is

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Like really big like those announcements because like really nothing has changed right see the announcements channel for any updates there as for the second

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Make content like I've been really happy to see

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Speckin's videos where he's just like there's a there's a gap. I'll make a video about this

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I've been really happy to see basement, but nerds videos where it's like hey, there's a gap here

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There isn't an introduction to logic so I make that and I was really really happy to see

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Engie's video where it's like here is a tutorial bracelet which many people wouldn't have a like aware of apparently Alex made

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Which means you can watch all the videos inside Neos and what's great is you can watch videos from all those creators because you can

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Just add playlists the system

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So just make videos if you don't understand something and then do understand it make a video about it

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That's how all my like earlier tutorials are made like I learned how the object grid aligner worked

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So I made a video on it. I learned how the axis aligner works. I made a video on it

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Fruks taught me dynamic impulses. So I made a video about it moving forwards

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Dicky's talking about get the

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Version control library not Canadian kit is there's lots of names and stuff that exist

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there's like Neos moderators short form mods and then there's Neos mods, which are the

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Modifications to the Neos that we allow which VRChat doesn't allow so they're being talked about a lot on the words

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Just get sort of like ah, so I've been trying to use the term moderator a little bit more to make things clearer or like

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Enunciating mods a little bit differently to make it clear, but hey, maybe it's not clear still

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It is cool. If you are looking to do computer programming

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You'll eventually need a version control system and get is the way to go

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There are others that are used for different cases

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For example, if you're using an unreal game usually you use perforce

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But hey, if you're just writing code gets cool learning it and yet Canadian gets also a chill dude moving forward to an idea's a question or

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An idea, I'm sorry pronunciation is not my forte. Hopefully this makes sense

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So assets on your avatar stored in the asset roots of the world

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Wouldn't that mean anyone who can edit the world could copy your avatars parts and reassemble them from assets in the directory

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Even if it's protected avatar. Yes, and no there are protections that exist on those assets

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Additionally, there is no white painting or armature data up there in the asset system. Do you remember as well that the

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Simple avatar protection system that we have is simple and that's why it's named simple avatar protection. It's quite

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Diligently named that way it is not watertight and there are ways to break it

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But it will remind you that there are ways to break any protection system

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We do want our protection system to get better and to get more

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Stronger it gets drunk

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The features that would enable that are combined sort of the license ID system and the hard permission system

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Yeah, that's a good enough answer. If you have any other things, please do that. Yeah

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Mandatory to allow different aspects it is it's really strange how there are a lot of software programs that don't do what they need to

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Do a good example of one another example being right to left support

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So there are a bunch of languages more than you know, I mean there are obvious ones like I think Hebrew does it

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I'm sorry if that's wrong Arabic most certainly does because that's the one that always tripped us up at mixer

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That read right to left and so suddenly your entire UI needs to be mirrored and work right to left

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But there are lots of like UI elements that are designed for a left to right world

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If you think about that just a simple like a dialog box appears and it has the OK cancel buttons

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With okay, usually on the left and cancel usually on the right. Does that make sense to right to left world? Don't know

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It's very calm challenging. So yeah, there's lots of stuff people just don't do they don't think about it

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When we needed to support right to left languages at mixer

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We just got the localization package back which is in all the strings translated into Arabic

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I think it was loaded them into mixer ran the page and then just went shit

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Just like things were overflowing everywhere UI were like backwards and forwards and upside down

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It didn't make any sense

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and it's just like this is a big project and it was we had like two or three engineers working on it for ages and

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They had to go back to design frequently and go what should things look like when this is in a right to left world

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I'm trying to say as well as you mentioned the database has everything that you have since was one

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We're wondering how it deals presumably looking at files that longer exists if they no longer exist

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There's usually a record of where to get them from so redownload them

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I do need to look into that more particularly seeing these freaks change that up a little bit and wants to change up more

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There are thousands of codes files in this code base. And sometimes I'm just like, I don't know what that file does

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Scrolling down people saying please don't die. That's great. Oh, we got to the we got to the pictures. Excellent

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But yeah, it's really cool. I don't see any additional questions. I will run down the rest of the comments that we've got here

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Let's see. Glad to see that you thought that

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Basement and NG's videos were a surprise. Mr. Carr liked them too. Sometimes mods mods have mods. Yep

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They might have or you know have had in the past side of job and see that people use subversion subversion also known as SVN

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CVS not the pharmacy but central version control system terrible. Don't use that one. There's another one called like material or something

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I haven't used that one though

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They all have a point with like it and stuff like that is that you can do code reviews remotely

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I used to work for five months a software company where they did only in-person reviews. It was horrible

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I'm not that big on personal space invading

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I'm not sure anyone is these days but like obviously like other it affects more people than most I hate it

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And the way that code reviews worked at that company

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I worked at for five months was before you could commit the code to a branch your own branch. No idea why

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Um, someone would have to come to your desk and review it side-by-side with you hated that

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I'm like, can we please do code reviews in other way? I'll email the diff files to someone

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I don't care like please don't come to my desk. Leave me alone. It's horrible

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Anyway, moving forwards. Yeah that runtime says you got to ask that when you're interviewing. Yes

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Do you remember that when your job interviewing if you need to job interviews?

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I have so much insight about how to do them properly and stuff like that

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I will give you some hints and here's one hint

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um, you are interviewing the interviewer as much as they are

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interviewing you and your questions that you ask them are as good if not better sometimes than the questions that they are asking you for

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Understanding you and seeing if you're a fit at the company

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So if you want to like make them sweat a little bit, which is good, right? Because you're sweating you're nervous

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It's a job interview make them nervous

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Ask them what the work-life balance is like ask them what their day-to-day looks like ask them about the last time

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Stressful situation at work and how the company mitigated that which is very important

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If your company that you're working for isn't mitigating stressful situations, then they don't deserve to employ you

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Every company should take action to reduce stressful situations not increase them

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So it's just a couple of questions there. They're interesting and then yeah asked about their tech stack, right? It's interesting

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I wish I'd done that before I joined the workplace. I work for for five months. Anyway

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I'm moving on. I don't see any other questions. So if you have any questions, do you let me know?

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We have about eight minutes left kind of short office hours today

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I just saw a quote channel ping from Lex which has make them nervous

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I'm on it like do it right if they're nervous then you've done the right job

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Another thing to look out for as well, particularly if you're in like my industry for interviews is often they'll give you a take-home assignment

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And watch those take-home assignments. Sometimes they are manipulative or sometimes predatory. So do keep an eye on that

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for example once when I was interviewing I was given a take-home assignment to make a redis parser redis is a

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Hard to explain thing. I don't really know how to explain this

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I know I would use it for I'm very familiar of how I would use it

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I just don't know how to classify redis

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It's like a sort of in memory database thing either a lot of software companies use for very good reasons

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I just don't want to use it for anyway

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they wanted to me to make a redis client which could speak the the language and the protocols that redis did and

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Just see how far I got and I got like my my spidey senses went off and I'm like, that's a bit weird

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Maybe they need maybe they need a redis client and they're hoping that I'll write one for them

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So I submitted the code assignment back to them, but I had licensed the code assignment that they gave me as GPL

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So I was like I've done your license your code assignment, but I've licensed to sit as GPL. So good luck

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for those unaware the GPL license for

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Code basically means that a company cannot use it for profit that easily

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It's what I was basically doing is like this seems fishy. So I'm gonna license it as GPL and I'm like, okay

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I won and I'll actually do that now for like all coding assignments. I license them as GPL

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Additionally for coding assignments or take home assignments and job interviews make sure it's not too

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Aligned to the job that you were doing

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I had an interview another place where the take-home assignment was basically what I'd be doing at the job and I said that's unfair

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That's consulting because it's too close to the job

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I was interviewing for a product manager position and they were asking me for sort of like ideas and

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Insights on the product that they were building and they weren't paying me for that and I'm like that's not appropriate as a product manager

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You can give me a take-home assignment about an arbitrary problem

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Airplane booking system if your company is doing I don't know t-shirts and you ask me for an airplane booking system product manager take-home assignment

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That's fine. But if you're a t-shirt company and you ask me for a product manager at take-home assignment about t-shirts, that's bad

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I'm giving you free advice. You will pay me for that or I will not do it

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And I've actually said no to a couple of jobs because of that and change the hiring policies. It's great

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I say no and then the hiring manager is like but we really liked you

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We'll change our hiring policies for you. And I'm like, no, sorry on principle. Like I can't wait you're asking for consultancy at that point

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Okay, they're actually asked some other Neos questions. So for those who are not

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In the software engineering land, I will go back to Neos questions. I apologize for that, but some people enjoyed it. So great

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Sorry says that they had to print out our code and explain it at the meeting table

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Yeah, don't don't print code either but most teaching best practices is good

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But you should take that knowledge and crystallize it into a PowerPoint

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And then you can do that a lot easier or ideally not a PowerPoint maybe like a blog article people

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misunderstand that like internal documentation part of things like you should have an internal documentation that is as good as

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external documentation for your software like if someone is new to the

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Company, they should have a wiki or a place that they can go to where it's like I'm new help and there should be

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A list of shit that they can go look at and feel less new moving was for an actual Neos question Lord

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Tremieson he says well when the inventory UI be made better

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So the venturing UI is part of our UI rework which is often misconstrued as bigger or smaller than it actually is

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So I'm gonna go ahead and link you to the Neos public roadmap board for the UI rework

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Overall UI overhaul, but that one doesn't really convey the sort of picture of the UI. So here is

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Projects 2 which is our UI overall you'll see that there is items on there for doing that

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We don't have any plans to currently do that as we're on a little bit of a freeze when it comes to that the next thing

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That we will do on the UI is the settings page that settings page just allows us to add additional settings

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You can see bullet points there in the preparing gathering info segment

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Which says redesign settings all sorts of stuff there before anyone else ask as well. Yes, everything will have a dark mode option

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basically anything that is

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Light mode is old and needs to be that includes the inventory the contact system anything else

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That's like light mode that includes inspectors. So there'll be a dark mode. There will also still be a light mode anything

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It's just like there'll be the possibility to have either depending on which one you'd prefer

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But it's a good measure for what needs to be changed. But yeah, the inventory UI will be changed at some point

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I can't really answer when moving on to Risa's question Risa says

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Do you have any suggestions on how to mitigate room and correct local asset transfer issue where local assets uploaded not transfer to the host

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Or who's from?

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I don't receive I will add that one to my list as well. I'm sorry. I just haven't read that part of the code

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Oh, I pasted that into my notepad and it just like pasted a bunch of discord stuff including emojis. I don't need that

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Specs, I'm glad to see that you did a point point

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I'm presuming mean PowerPoint on Redis, which is a very fast in memory database cache. That's a great tagline for it

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That is perfect. So I've used it for both of those things. I just couldn't think of the

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Sentence for it moving forwards. I know there's way to upload tremors and again

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I know there's a way to upload pictures very easily from PC to news

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But it's way to download a picture from news to PC

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Yeah, grab the picture open up your context menu and it'll say save a screenshot that'll go to

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Your home folder which is like your wherever all your shit is and inside the pictures folder

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There'll be a folder called me SVR. It'll be saved there if that doesn't work because like

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It's a picture that's weird for some reason or you can't use that

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someone's public folder that you can shoot a picture with and then it'll act like a screenshot and you can save it there if

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That doesn't work as in if that like hold it and then use the context menu doesn't work

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you can hold the picture go to your file browser and hit the plus and it'll start an export window for that picture and then

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You can export it. I did notice a couple of people doing this. I will bring it up

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I've noticed a couple of people that will do all four of those so they'll take the picture which actually saves it twice

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It's saved to the Steam screenshot location and your pictures near SVR folder

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So there's two copies of the photo then they'll export it as a screenshot using the context menu item

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That's three times that picture has been saved and then they'll use the file browser to also export it

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Which means that photo exists four times on their computer. So don't do that. Please choose just one

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Moving forwards to no user found. Is there any tools in the earth? You'd like to be more streamlined avatar creator full-body creator

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Anything to do with the slicing materials? I use those all the time right now and I hate them

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there's just a bunch of bugs I need to fix and

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No, not really there's lots of stuff that we need to but like if you like

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You know, it was like the top list avatar creator full-body calibrator are the top ones

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Hamish likes the slicing materials and doing weird stuff with them

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I spent three hours figuring out the mathematics for one

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I still don't know what's going on

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but I did look at it the volumetric 3d slice II thing the my brain uses such the

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World browser for medical and you can go look at my brain inside Neos if you didn't know that go look at my brain

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It's in Neos my actual brain look for medical in the world browser that rendering I think is a raymarch shader

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I looked at the code. I don't know shade of code

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I looked at that and I'm like, that's the closest thing to ray marching I've ever read. It's cool

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That's all the questions we have and we are at the end of time

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So mystic and global if you have a question, please type it otherwise no more questions

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A global entity says will it be custom shade of support?

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sort of

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We can't do unity shaders. So you're not gonna have unity shaders. Sorry about that. It also looks like for the initial in

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Support of custom shaders also won't be writing raw shader code. It will be

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Composing shaders using a shader node graph in a similar way to how blender does it?

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Which will give you like an immense freedom to make shaders, but won't be raw shader code

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And then mystic says the cures of dark mode is any information that we talked about

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No, we haven't really done any designs in the area, but

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It'll be dark

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thumbs up

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With that we're here to leave things off and get started on some other stuff

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If you have any additional questions

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Please go ahead and direct message me them drop them in the questions help section drop them in the sheet for next week

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And always remember stay awesome. Oh and Neos has mirrors

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I don't know why I have to say this but there's a rumor going around that we don't have mirrors. We have mirrors

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I'll see you next time. Bye. Bye