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everyone.
Tiny handful of folks that we have.
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So I'll start us off with Hello everyone. I'm Canadian kid and I'm here with Veer.
This is the moderation office hours.
We're gonna be here for the next 30 minutes
to field any questions you have about moderation,
the mentor program, the guidelines more broadly.
As always, I like to say,
you're welcome to field any question about resonate as a whole.
Uh Those are just the areas we know the most about.
So feel free to ask whatever questions on your mind.
We'll give you our best answer and if we can't give you a complete answer,
we will point you where you can get more information
if you'd like to ask any of those questions.
Please head to the Moderation Office hours forum just north of the community
stage where you'll find a thread titled Moderation Office hours and today's date,
I hope everyone has been having a fantastic weekend so far
among us,
their cyber frog has that dose of dopamine for you.
We are unfortunately recording this office hours. So that will be
preserved forever.
Excellent.
If you're trying to put an eyeball on the uh the thread.
Uh oh, here, I will just drop it in
the office hours. General channel.
If you need to link through to that forum thread,
if you are otherwise trying to run it down, it can also be found in
the chat room for this stage.
That of mind. I again, I hope everyone's been having a fantastic weekend.
I don't think we have any major moderation
news authority to get your opinion on though.
We have had a couple of things come out recently.
There's a the new resonate trailer rolling around out there.
Recap stream recently went over.
Oh, all the awesome thing that things that happened over the last month,
including the new business report
uh showing some of the, the financials of resonate as a whole.
Lots of interesting things happening.
Luo asks business report.
Yeah, if you go to the recap stream, which is just for clarification,
always the first stream of any given month.
Uh You get uh there's gonna,
there's typically a bunch of things that will
go over all of the development that happened throughout
uh the preceding month.
All of the new things brought down by the content team, by the development team,
any major news items that are happening and then it tends to be capped off
by a business office hours uh this time because it's a end of a quarterly.
Uh We also had uh business reports more broadly sort of a financial report
about the the financial health of the company as we're trying to of course,
push for transparency in all regards.
Let people see what's going on behind the curtain.
So to say in as much as we can, whatever we can,
uh
we do have a question.
Cyber frog asks, I want to make an E 620 one.net browser for resite
but it has filters by X
I think an autocorrect eight, a chunk of that sentence
uh questionable and safe. How does it need to behave and resonate to be public?
Uh E 621 of course, has adult content, but it can also output safe content too.
Can I make a browser with adult content option? Doesn't need to be only safe content.
Uh This is one of those things where it's an item that
the thing you're loading into the world.
The browser itself, we would treat as adult content
if it has a direct link through to a site
containing predominantly or at least large quantities adult content.
Yeah, you'd want to be very,
very careful of how you're going to bring that out into the world.
Uh But if you've made it in
this regard,
assuming the worlds you're bringing it into
and meet the criteria for adult content,
they are not publicly visible.
Everyone present is 18 years of age or older and they consent to view that content,
then that'd be perfectly fine to load it in.
I don't think there's a way you could design the item
so that it would be fine to bring out in every
session that runs into the same problem we have with people making
a clever modifications to their avatars that like delete the adult content
when they load into worlds that aren't adult content rated moderation,
as we previously said, never endorse any of those systems.
It's always bring it out of your inventory in a world that is
rated for adult content if it might have adult content on it.
Yep.
And just be aware the,
the filtering stuff that you are working with uh is also on their servers.
So if they have some sort of server screw
up where they're not uh respecting uh explicit filters
uh that could get you in trouble if you
load this into the world and it accidentally shows
adult content, not only that, but it is a predominantly porn site.
Uh Sometimes people miss tag items
uh on, you know, these sites and uh they might uh tag it as safe.
Uh And uh that would be on you if you did
bring it into a public session and uh accidentally loaded that uh
those images on there.
Just be cautious. I'd recommend only using this an adult,
sorry,
uh private sessions. Sh
like asks,
I think is the logical follow up question of this
is would a Twitter browser not be allowed then?
And it would run into the same problems?
Certainly, if you're using this to engage with adult content on Twitter,
you'd have to treat it the same way you would
uh anything else that could bring in adult content.
That my, my general recommendation, of course, across the board is going to be
if you suspect what you're bringing into any
session is going to bring adult content,
make sure that session is rated for adult content.
Uh
Rampa says uh can unless you use filter scrapper proxy,
something like piped but for the site and
set up to filter stuff.
Yeah, I
I don't know,
admittedly precisely what a filtered scrapper proxy is,
but this is going to fall, I imagine under the same category of all other.
But what if I used X uh to make an avatar work if it was going to have adult content,
but fix itself for public worlds of we as
moderation are not going to endorse that method.
We're going to say no if there's any potential for
adult content coming through on this thing you're spawning out,
make sure it's in a world that's rated for it.
Otherwise you're responsible. Should that adult content show up in sessions?
It's not rated for
as Luxo
says, two separate browsers then a safe one and an adult one.
Yes, that would be the safest way to do it.
Uh Cyber frog says,
what about stable
diffusion uh image generator
one time it accidentally generated adult poops.
OK.
Uh What if it happens in a public world
who will be punished for generating this stuff?
Uh User who spawned this item or creator of stable diffusion rezo interface.
So it would be the person bringing the uh item into the world.
Uh If it does display adult content
uh on it,
it's worth noting.
And I like to emphasize when we're
having these sorts of conversations that moderation.
If you mess up the adult content guidelines in a good faith fashion,
I you didn't know that stable diffusion
could accidentally generate boobs and they did.
And it was a public world.
We're not going to respond even if we get the ticket and
someone shows a video of you doing it by banning you forever.
Very unlikely.
You are not a person in that scenario trying to maliciously harm other users.
It's not a particularly egregious offense.
And if you go oh dang and immediately remove the item, thus fixing the problem,
we're probably not going to lead with anything other than
sending a warning or a reminder through the bot saying,
OK, you have to be more careful
this sort of stuff. If you repeat, yes, we escalate,
but we're not unreasonable people. We're not going
to see
a toe poke past the line when it comes to adult
content and immediately lop it off and banan you forever.
We are,
we are going to appreciate the context for how these things come
out and lead with information where we can and where it's appropriate.
Pampa
says what I mean is an external filter not letting any not
safe for work ever reach resonate and not manipulable in game.
And again, I'm not going to endorse any system
if you make a system, that's perfect.
I will never find out about it because it's perfect,
but I'm not going to endorse anything outside of
uh anything that could
bring adult content into reson night being confined
to sessions where it's rated for it.
That's just the line I will always go back to every single time.
It's a very boring line. I understand it doesn't like it doesn't have tons of nuance,
but it's at least very clear for people to understand
as a couple of people appointing,
I do want to jump on uh breasts is a particularly bad example um in
this uh that,
that is correct since we do not have any
uh restriction for the present uh presentation of nipples.
Be it male or female inside of our guidelines, that would be fine.
But if you brought something in that did write his adult content,
uh everything else we've been saying follows in line
as a
meta
melo says it was supposed to be rhetorical and it was answered rhetorical.
If things coming and contained adult content,
we would have to treat it in that fashion.
Yes. Uh
One more time just to be clear,
uh The guidelines make no reference to nipples regardless of gender.
Uh
At the present moment,
cyber frog asks, can I make a browser that will display only save content
uh with check boxes with adult filters will be hidden
inside and unsubscribed as enable it for adult content.
But you can take the responsibility to have this item only in private sessions.
Again, we're not going to endorse any individual
uh system you're using to put it together much like avatars.
We go back to this boring old line where we say, hey, if adult content comes through,
you're responsible for it,
no amount of trickery is going to get the thumbs up for moderation.
We're going to tell you if there's a possibility of adult content coming through,
if any of your system breaks
and you think that might lead to adult
content coming through something on the far side,
breaking it that might lead to adult content coming through.
Keep that sucker
in an adult content world.
That way you don't run the risk of things going wrong.
Someone identifying that it's gone wrong and submitting a ticket for you.
I will also say uh cyber frogs uh talking about making this device, I think.
Uh And are you asking if you're gonna be held responsible?
Uh if someone else uh makes the mistake of accidentally showing adult content,
if that's the question, the answer is no.
Uh we would be talking to the person giving a warning usually
uh to the person who is displaying the content, not the creator of the display.
Exactly.
Sh
like asks sort of a logical follow up of that.
If an item shows adult content,
you mentioned that the user spawning in the item is responsible.
Is that the case every time,
like could the creator be responsible at any point?
And I'd like to take that outside of just the world of adult content,
generally, almost always across the board.
It is the actions inside of resonate that we try to moderate.
Uh As we know, I like to gather spiel anything down to just a,
a gun that knocks people back could be used to harass other users.
We don't.
And there's many, many things far, far,
far more complicated than a gun that knocks
people back that could be used for harassment,
but that could otherwise break the guidelines.
We don't penalize those items almost ever. It's almost always the actions of users.
Have you spawned it out and misused it.
There are some vanishingly rare exceptions to this.
If you build something inside of resite,
that could be damaging to resite
as a whole. We might go after that item
but they are sufficiently fringe that I,
I don't think I would uh vest this conversation with examples about them.
It's just generally emphasizing, yeah,
the actions of the user bringing it out is what we look at.
Yup.
Uh Cyber Frog asks, OK. Can I uh make a safe browser and add the text for NSFW version?
Ask, ask to Cyber Frog. You could
uh technically do that. Yeah.
Um There's not really a problem uh with you doing that or not doing that,
you know, because once again, it's, it's not the about the creator of the item.
If you're not creating this item
uh to cause problems for the resonate platform. If you're creating it uh
for a legitimate use,
uh then we are not going to even be sending any
warnings your way if someone misuses your item that you created.
Absolutely. You can imagine people making
use of a browser for adult content in adult content rated worlds. Uh
If one of those users brought it to
another world or where it wasn't appropriately rated,
that's, that's the issue.
It's not the creation of the browser itself.
We'd have, we'd have a conversation with that user.
Uh Cyber Frog asks but can,
is uh spawn a safe browser that has a folder with NSFW version in it.
Um If you can ensure that this item doesn't necessarily reach the hands of miners,
which if you do create a, uh, a public folder that can be pretty,
think we lost De Vere.
Hello?
Hello? Can you hear me? You're coming through again?
Oh, weird.
Was I was, I censored,
cut
off halfway through the cord was pulled.
Oh, my God. Ok. Anyway, uh what was I saying?
Uh Can I spawn a safe browser that has a folder with NSFW version in it?
Uh As long as you can try to keep that uh folder from getting in the hands of miners,
uh that would be very much appreciated.
Uh That is kind of our main concern with that point.
Uh So I wouldn't even recommend it.
Am I still gone?
You did? It came through loud and clear. No worries.
OK, good.
Our general recommendation when it comes to public folders
due to the difficulties associated with distribution is to
have a public folder. Uh whose contents are exclusively
uh lacking any sort of adult content whatsoever and
have no ability to bring it out regardless of
at
the surface level or sub folders within them hosted else wise and then
have an entirely separate folder that you might share closely among friends.
But even that
uh you'd want to be careful about distribution.
Uh Chandola
asks what about a case where an item is created and presented as
safe and would spawn out non allowed content when triggered on some way?
No, that's,
that's uh creation with intent to harm the
platform that would get you the creator in trouble
again, good faith uh appeals. If something came out, they, someone made it as
the item intending to spawn adult content.
This is very hypothetical and a report comes in.
And so we initially take action against the person who uh
spawned the item not knowing what it was going to do.
I assume that they would then submit an appeal and did good fact tell us,
I just did not know
what it was going to do.
Genuine ignorance is something that we're certainly going
to engage with when it comes to uh
changing our response to them.
It seems unlikely that we would
have immediately escalated to account restrictions,
but who knows, perhaps the thing it does is sufficiently bad that we would have.
In that case,
you don't want to have a conversation with us
and we're trying to identify where the item came from
just a quick ask. Have we missed anyone's questions
since there's a little bit of a lull
as always, if we did feel free to reply to yourself and just
point out the question in question
because we got a pretty big smattering of questions there all in a row.
That was, that was pretty great
answers leading to more questions. Indeed,
that tends to be the case,
which is always great.
Actually, that's probably why we have such a slow start at the beginning.
And then uh once we get the, uh, the oils wheeled, wait, the wheels oiled,
then we start getting a lot of questions. So, yeah,
keep them coming. How is the weather?
A little bit gray here?
Let's wheel the oils. Indeed.
It's gray and gloomy where I'm at.
Cheeseburger. Indeed.
Speaking of which I, once, uh, recently went to Wendy's and ended up getting a rare,
uh, medium rare.
Uh,
was it the Dave's double?
It was the best tasting burger I ever had from Wendy's?
I wish they would actually just give you that option to do that all the time.
Uh Chulak
asks, the mentor application form has been reopened. How is that going so far?
It's going so far pretty good.
I think we've already jumped like 10 users uh in the other uh discord group
uh since like two days ago.
Madame Blue says, I mean, you could probably ever request it to be medium rare.
They will always tell you they, they have to cook it to uh
like to well done.
Uh My burger was a mistake. They didn't leave it on the uh thing long enough.
Very tasty mistake.
Bob Ross burger.
Was it Dale's dead bug? What,
Easton, what are you doing to us
appears we're having some connection difficulties. I,
I do apologize. Discord every now and then does have issues.
Unfortunately, that's a little bit beyond our control.
We have founded a fairly convenient social app when
it comes to hosting things for the community,
but
I will be the first to admit there are flaws
indeed.
Why is there a, why is there a ping?
Oh, great. I got,
I got quoted ok,
once we get the oils wheeled indeed.
And he thought I was gonna be ashamed about among us.
Here's a funny question.
How many moderators have been added since resonate public launch?
Uh an entire none.
Uh We have not actually opened any applications and uh added any new moderators. Uh
Not yet.
We will be soon though. Uh We're probably gonna announce that uh here once we do
unless yet, am I missing anyone?
We didn't add anyone, I don't think, did we?
No,
no moderation has been.
We, we, of course, there were a number of mods that came along.
Uh So the grandfather done with previous programs
but uh no formal opening of the application since Friday Night has launched.
Yeah.
Uh Lexo
asks, would you be able to provide a list of the current moderators?
The wiki currently has an empty list.
I gotta put together the list uh for the wiki.
I don't wanna uh throw out any like names in uh making the mistake
of uh naming any moderators that aren't currently on the roster right now.
But uh we'll get that list updated soon.
Of course, if you're just curious who a mod is,
when you're wandering around in a game, they have a badge above their head.
We don't generally,
I
believe
that is.
I think I suspect I haven't checked the list
recently but that does the name rings a bell.
Really?
I will say this uh any of the uh users that are uh listed
here in the discord as moderators are also moderators uh on the platform.
But that's not the entire list.
Shale
asks, do all moderators have the badge? Yes, all moderators should.
I believe it's actually tied
to the command that gives them the ability to engage in
uh commands in resonate. I'm not 100% certain on that.
Yes.
So they are required to have that tag.
Uh Gray Fox and asks can moderators hide their tags? No, they cannot.
There might be a point at,
at uh sometime in the future where uh people will be able to tag,
uh like toggle their uh various tags.
We're not sure how we're gonna approach that with the moderation team yet.
Uh But uh we'll get to that bridge when we get there. I must,
I almost said we'll get to that bridge when we cross it.
Have a good day
forums.
Uh
This to be clear though is not a conduct thing.
Uh,
moderators and mentors are certainly still welcome to have a
custom name pegs as is pretty popular throughout the community.
If you want to know if a moderator is a moderator,
I always recommend looking in the session tab or the content will be clear.
There's a word for what I almost did a mala
for thank you.
Uh
Shli
asks, are there any moderators that are mentors as well or the roles exclusive?
They are not exclusive.
You are welcome to be part of both parts of the volunteer teams.
Uh If you would like
that is
probably not the correct answer.
Mentors aren't allowed to just step into being moderators.
I don't mean to imply that
uh but moderators are certainly welcome to retain
or go become a mentor after joining the team. There's, there's no exclusivity
whatsoever in that regard.
Uh Mentors would have to go through the same application process as anyone else.
If uh and when we open it in the future,
we'll burn that bridge when we get to it. And that's great. Actually,
uh
Chal A
asks, is there a cloud variable with a list of mentors and moderators? No.
Oh Hey,
who answered my question for me?
Thank you,
Easton points out. It's called the wiki.
However,
I do uh recognize that some of those wiki pages
are lacking in the list for at least the moderators.
I think a mentor list would be a pretty massive excursion.
I sort of want to recommend against trying to keep a continuous up to date
list of mentors. But,
you know, it's something we could talk to the mentor relates about.
I was gonna say, if there's some form of automation, we could employ
uh to update the lists on the wiki, then sure but like
if not, that's, you know,
gonna be kind of a harrowing task to do every week,
more things to add to the pile.
By the way, we have two minutes remaining.
Uh If you guys have any questions for us, we're gonna be here for the next two minutes.
Uh And uh after that,
we're gonna go ahead and close out uh
this week's office hours for the moderation team.
Um
I may have lied. I think we have a minute left.
It is getting
pretty short.
Could you explain how cloud fair works?
I know
like the technical pro
I just,
I would recommend you take that question to
probable primes office hours that happen on Tuesdays.
I think the local dispensary might be able to explain it to me. I'm not sure.
I mean, I thought that's what uh Rampa was talking about at first earlier.
Question. How,
I don't know.
Oh Madam Blue uh asks what is our favorite world?
Um
It's a good question,
you know, lately I'd say probably my favorite world is uh Sound Egg
by Ka.
I really like uh the music uh vinyl creation system. I think that's really fun.
And thank you, Techno
techno has pasted the uh Wikilink for the Cloud Variables page.
Always appreciate it.
Yes.
All right. I think we've reached that magical time
uh where you're not currently typing a question about moderation
or anything else we could answer.
Uh
I'd encourage you to hold on to it for next week when we will be back at the same time,
same location to field
as many questions as we can,
uh, for another 30 minutes.
Yep.
And, uh, you guys have a wonderful rest of your week, uh,
and a wonderful rest of your Sunday
and have a great day.
So, hold on, hold on. Cyber Fox does ask one question.
My studio is called Yellow Dog Man Studios.
When the dog on logo is not actually yellow but
a code
I
he's secretly a coding dog.
It's probably one of those weird esoteric uh
references that fruits hides and things.
No, that's just the
house code. But
uh
I know
maybe
that's it. Yes. Uh Thank you everyone for all the questions.
It has been an exciting Sunday. We'll catch you next time.
Catch you later, folks.